Not disappointed.. Not satisfied.

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  1. MVPernula

    MVPernula TPF Noob!

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    Oh.. Man I didn't know it was DX.
    Lack of research again, rip.

    Yeah. Hm, you've made me think twice.
    I'll take a step back and collect my thougts.


     
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    Used D800 is what I did after having bought a used D610 eight months ago or so. I prefer the D800 is every category. The 800e minus AA filter does not seem to be that big of a deal, to me at least, I'm plenty happy with the 800's detail level even on landscapes.
     
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    jaomul Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Look at it this way, 10-20f3.5 excellent wideangle, 50mm on dx very nice portait lens, 70-300, good Tele on dx, nothing wrong with kit lenses either in good light. You add that 35, you have there or thereabouts the same field of view that a 50mm gives on fullframe, if it don't work out you are only a little money down (cost of 35mm dx) from where you are now.

    Make sure you've good tripod, cable release or infrared remote. It's the small things make the bigger difference, shoot (raw)in 14 bit lossless if you are gonna be at iso 100 and learn a little editing
     
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    MVPernula TPF Noob!

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    Settings and editing are no big deal, studied media in high school so I have, photoshop, premiere, in design, after effects, lightroom and all of those in the bag!

    But I have no shutter controller, really gotta get me one of those.
     
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    MVPernula TPF Noob!

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    Ugh, it seems so good. Although I know what I have is fine too.
    I'll look around more.
     
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    Cortian No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I'm not a Nikon guy. (Heck, I'm not even really a "Canon guy," yet.) And I wasn't here for the original discussion, so maybe I'm going over old ground. But I have to ask: What did you expect? What was it for which you were hoping? What is it about what's happening with your current setup with which you're dissatisfied?

    The point to all these questions is this: Improved hardware is wonderful and all--who doesn't like new gear, but it's not going to perform miracles. Probably ;).

    One of my best photos ever resulted from me seeing something interesting from a cabin window, grabbing my lowly Olympus Stylus Tough 6000, running down to a dock in my PJs, and snapping several photos laying on my belly on the end of that rickety pier.
     
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    That's a really good question actually. I think what I wanted was.. Difference.
    Like sure, the piece of equipment I held in my hands was bigger and had more megapixels along with easier use (I mean it has buttons man, BUTTONS!).

    Slapping my lenses on it gave the same result. I think I'm way too focused on the fact that it's not a full frame sensor, but I also think that's what I *actually* wanted to make it feel like an upgrade. AF felt as "fast", which isn't very fast and snappy, everything just felt the same. Like I could've used my D5100 for what I was doing with it, I just added a battery grip.

    Idunno if that makes sense, but I don't think I can explain my feeling better :D
     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    Keep in mind a few things. The D800 and variants are a pro body.
    So you lose all the Beginner stuff you find on the D5100/D7100.

    Also it really needs high IQ lenses.
    I know some of my older lenses went to mush on just a 24mp sensor. But you'll have to check DXO for those numbers assuming some your lenses are even listed.

    FYI, "DX" lens are different in that they are designed for the Smaller image circle of the DX Sensor. Thus they use less diameter glass as compared to a FX lens. Thus they are lighter, cheaper, etc. If you put many of them on a FX camera you'll have the outer edges all black on the image as the image circle is not large enough to fully cover a FX sensor.
     
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    The lens creates the image - the body just records it. Same lenses has to give you the same images.
     
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    That is both a gross simplification and manifestly untrue.
     
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    But explains why the Op did not notice any improvement with his body upgrade which is the topic de jour.
     
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    OP: I have chased upgrades for the last 18 months. Went from D7000 to 7100 to 500 to 750, then swapped the 750 for the 810. I know all too well
    How tempting the upgrades are.

    Currently I shoot with the D500 and the D810. The images really aren’t much different.. you get more resolution in the 800 series bodies but it doesn’t make any difference whatsoever unless you are cropping massively or printing gigantic prints.

    You can buy the D800, but you won’t see any massive changes in your images. Sure, you’ll get a wider FOV on equivalents lenses.. but that doesn’t really change much because you can always zoom out more or get a wider lens.

    It used to be that full frame cameras offered better low light performance, but that isn’t even true anymore. My D500 massively outperforms my D810 in low light/high iso performance. The images made by the cameras are generally indistinguishable from one another if you’re looking at a final product and not pixel peeping.

    The reason that you upgrade to pro level bodies is for better durability, longer life expectancy, more external controls, faster AF, better low light performance, etc. But it generally isn’t for better image quality as the entry level and amateur bodies have professional level image quality at this point.

    You could go buy a D5 or any other high end professional body, and at iso 100, you will be extremely hard pressed to notice any difference whatsoever in image quality when compared to your 7100.

    Basically, it’s about the photographer and not the camera. If I were you I’d buy a few pro lenses and hone your skills. When you start feeling the camera slowing you down, then you will know you’re ready to upgrade. But that generally takes years.
     
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