Photo Color different when printed

[bazzaboy2010]

I used a online store for some quick printing and they came back a little lighter and also with a
yellow green tinge. Like the sunset should be orange and it is now yellow.

I ask the printing company on what icc they use and the responce i get is the icc match the printers
to the papers.

Any ideas would be a help.

Kind regards
Barry

 

[BrentC]

Did you edit in Adobe RGB not sRGB? I only know from what I have read but it seems when printing you want to edit your work in Adobe RGB and that also means you should use a calibrated monitor that can display the full aRGB gamut.

I am sure the more experienced people will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[bazzaboy2010]

The mode is set to RGB 16 bit.

I dont know much about printing.

I ask what profile they use i was told, Profiles aren’t use in commercial printing only on home printers.
Dont know the truth to this.

They also said that Colours are controlled using ICC profiles that match the paper to the printer. Our printers are calibrated and print heads aligned on a daily basis.

Still they can not answer why the prints have a lighter green, yellow overcast to them.

 

[KmH]

There is a lot more to successfully having prints made than many people realize.
The Digital Negative: Raw Image Processing in Lightroom, Camera Raw, and Photoshop (2nd Edition)
The Digital Print: Preparing Images in Lightroom and Photoshop for Printing
Real World Image Sharpening with Adobe Photoshop, Camera Raw, and Lightroom (2nd Edition)

It is recommended by editing experts to edit in the broadest color space available.
In Photoshop/Camera Raw that is the ProPhoto RGB color space.
Lightroom doesn't offer a choice of editing color space. Lightroom uses a special version of the ProPhoto RGB color space.

If you download the ICC profile for the printer/paper combination the print lab will be using to print your photos you can 'soft proof' the print if your editing application can soft proof.
Soft Proofing: Matching On-Screen Photos with Prints

Most print labs also give you the choice of having them color correct your photos, or not.
Labs that do offer color correction generally guarantee prints you let them color correct.
If you don't let them color correct your photos they don't guarantee their prints.

I have always done my own color correction.
Photo Editing Tutorials
Tutorials on Color Management & Printing

 

[bazzaboy2010]

Is it difficult to send the profile. Because it seems they keep on avoiding that ??

 

[bazzaboy2010]

This is a reply i got just now. The ICC profile will only work with our printer and paper, that’s what an icc profile is for. Unless you have the same printer and paper it won’t work. I have sent you a proof of what I can do.

 

[bazzaboy2010]

There is a lot more to successfully having prints made than many people realize.
The Digital Negative: Raw Image Processing in Lightroom, Camera Raw, and Photoshop (2nd Edition)
The Digital Print: Preparing Images in Lightroom and Photoshop for Printing
Real World Image Sharpening with Adobe Photoshop, Camera Raw, and Lightroom (2nd Edition)

It is recommended by editing experts to edit in the broadest color space available.
In Photoshop/Camera Raw that is the ProPhoto RGB color space.
Lightroom doesn't offer a choice of editing color space. Lightroom uses a special version of the ProPhoto RGB color space.

If you download the ICC profile for the printer/paper combination the print lab will be using to print your photos you can 'soft proof' the print if your editing application can soft proof.
Soft Proofing: Matching On-Screen Photos with Prints

Most print labs also give you the choice of having them color correct your photos, or not.
Labs that do offer color correction generally guarantee prints you let them color correct.
If you don't let them color correct your photos they don't guarantee their prints.

I have always done my own color correction.
Photo Editing Tutorials
Tutorials on Color Management & Printing

This is the reply i just got. The ICC profile will only work with our printer and paper, that’s what an icc profile is for. Unless you have the same printer and paper it won’t work. I have sent you a proof of what I can do.

 

[Ysarex]

How is your monitor calibrated? What calibration device are you using?

Joe

 

[bazzaboy2010]

How is your monitor calibrated? What calibration device are you using?

Joe

Colormuki smile

 

[Ysarex]

How is your monitor calibrated? What calibration device are you using?

Joe

Colormuki smile

Good, and what post processing software are you using?

Joe

 

[bazzaboy2010]

I use lightroom and photoshop. photoshop is always the end of my process

How is your monitor calibrated? What calibration device are you using?

Joe

Colormuki smile

Good, and what post processing software are you using?

Joe

I use lightroom and photoshop. photoshop is always the end of my process

 

[vintagesnaps]

You said you used an online store - is it a printing company? There is so much out there online that isn't necessarily reputable. I print my own and if I can figure out how to do it (not being a computer whiz), shouldn't a professional printing company be able to make some adjustments? or figure out why the color is off? or offer to refund your money? so then you could try elsewhere.

 

[Ysarex]

I use lightroom and photoshop. photoshop is always the end of my process

How is your monitor calibrated? What calibration device are you using?

Joe

Colormuki smile

Good, and what post processing software are you using?

Joe

I use lightroom and photoshop. photoshop is always the end of my process

OK, then under the View menu in Photoshop you can select the option Proof Setup. Select Custom and then you'll need to provide a device to simulate. Here's is where you chose the ICC profile supplied by your printer. If they won't supply that for you find another printer that will. Printers can be reluctant to supply ICC profiles to customers because they rightly fear that most of their customers don't have a clue what to do with them and will use them incorrectly and only make matters worse. Hard to blame them because they're right about that unfortunately. I got ICC profiles from MPIX but it took an email exchange in which I was able to convince them I understood how to use them.

Once you have the profile in place on your system you can go to the View menu and select Proof Colors to get a soft proof -- Photoshop uses the profile to simulate how your print will likely appear on that device.

Joe

 

[vintagesnaps]

Can't you look up ICC profiles? Or am I thinking you can look it up for a specific printer? I'm trying to remember if I did that thru the company that manufactured my printer, it's been long enough ago that I don't remember.

 

[Ysarex]

Can't you look up ICC profiles? Or am I thinking you can look it up for a specific printer? I'm trying to remember if I did that thru the company that manufactured my printer, it's been long enough ago that I don't remember.

You can look up and download generic ICC profiles for some printer brands from the paper manufacturers. These are better than nothing but not ideal. We would expect a commercial print shop to adopt standard color management practice and build and maintain custom ICC profiles for their hardware and standard paper. To be able to soft-proof at home to their device you need that profile. They should be willing to supply it to customers who know how to use it.

Joe