Pinhole Wedding?

[e.rose]

BLAH, blah, blah blah BLAH!

I don't know what everyone is b*tching about.

Well, see....... you only have a little over 300 posts and you probably haven't been around long enough to know......... this is what we do best here on TPF........ The Pi$$y Forum.




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[Ronaldo]

BLAH, blah, blah blah BLAH!

Go for it Bitter! You did the "right" thing and hired a pro... now you're allowed to do whatever the f***k you want.

I don't know what everyone is b*tching about. The impression that I'm getting from this thread (and Bitter, please correct me if I'm wrong), is that he's going to be more of a guest having fun with a wedding he's going to be attending than an actual "second shooter". And hey... if anything cool results from it, he'll be giving them to his sister.

He did the "responsible" thing... he hired a pro. So who gives a rats ass what he decides to experiment with/on?

Seriously.

Ya'll need to lighten up.

 

[e.rose]

BLAH, blah, blah blah BLAH!

Go for it Bitter! You did the "right" thing and hired a pro... now you're allowed to do whatever the f***k you want.

I don't know what everyone is b*tching about. The impression that I'm getting from this thread (and Bitter, please correct me if I'm wrong), is that he's going to be more of a guest having fun with a wedding he's going to be attending than an actual "second shooter". And hey... if anything cool results from it, he'll be giving them to his sister.

He did the "responsible" thing... he hired a pro. So who gives a rats ass what he decides to experiment with/on?

Seriously.

Ya'll need to lighten up.

The POINT... is that it doesn't matter *WHAT* he does because he's not actually responsible for shooting the wedding. So there's no need to jump on his d*ck like everyone is.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I would suggest thinking about being much more creative with the people aspect of the wedding, rather than trying any technical razzle-dazzle.

Your sister's wedding is going to be an emotional event for her, not an artistic one.

Why not use standard equipment and exposures, but use your freedom to capture the people and the emotions of the wedding for your sister - - in unique/interesting ways??

But I am going to do capture the moment in a unique and hopefully interesting way.
I also hired a photographer whose work I know well, and am totally confident in.
Besides, I will have all my gear with me, and two bodies, two flashes. I will be mixing it up. I already have a plan in my mind as to where I will tilt shift, where I will pinhole, and where I will go with standard lenses. People shouldn't assume I will shoot the whole wedding with a pinhole.

sw1tchFX, yeah the pin hole lens does look OOF. That's what I will run with. I have been looking at pictorial photography from the 20's and that's the look I want to go for. Back then lenses were advertised FOR there softness. I know it could be a total flop, I know I might not achieve the visions in my head, but I have to try it. I could get a lensbaby, but I'd rather do it with a "lens" that I made, that's how I am.

Derrel reminds me much of my dad, and a lot of my family. I have been an artist all my life being told that I will always be starving, and never make anything of myself, even to the point that when I already had this business I started a year and half ago and invited my dad up to see the shop I was building, which was the first he even knew what I was doing, I was asked what I knew about running a business, and did I think it was a smart time to do this with the economy being so bad. But now he is proud of me because I am successful. :roll: Thanks Derrel for telling me my idea stupid. That's all I needed to hear.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've done many stupid/risky things in my life, and I don't regret a single one.
My sister will have a special gift from her brother, I know she will appreciate it, and really, that's all that matters.

 

[Ronaldo]

I would suggest thinking about being much more creative with the people aspect of the wedding, rather than trying any technical razzle-dazzle.

Your sister's wedding is going to be an emotional event for her, not an artistic one.

Why not use standard equipment and exposures, but use your freedom to capture the people and the emotions of the wedding for your sister - - in unique/interesting ways??

But I am going to do capture the moment in a unique and hopefully interesting way.
I also hired a photographer whose work I know well, and am totally confident in.
Besides, I will have all my gear with me, and two bodies, two flashes. I will be mixing it up. I already have a plan in my mind as to where I will tilt shift, where I will pinhole, and where I will go with standard lenses. People shouldn't assume I will shoot the whole wedding with a pinhole.

sw1tchFX, yeah the pin hole lens does look OOF. That's what I will run with. I have been looking at pictorial photography from the 20's and that's the look I want to go for. Back then lenses were advertised FOR there softness. I know it could be a total flop, I know I might not achieve the visions in my head, but I have to try it. I could get a lensbaby, but I'd rather do it with a "lens" that I made, that's how I am.

Derrel reminds me much of my dad, and a lot of my family. I have been an artist all my life being told that I will always be starving, and never make anything of myself, even to the point that when I already had this business I started a year and half ago and invited my dad up to see the shop I was building, which was the first he even knew what I was doing, I was asked what I knew about running a business, and did I think it was a smart time to do this with the economy being so bad. But now he is proud of me because I am successful. :roll: Thanks Derrel for telling me my idea stupid. That's all I needed to hear.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've done many stupid/risky things in my life, and I don't regret a single one.
My sister will have a special gift from her brother, I know she will appreciate it, and really, that's all that matters.

Fair enough. But I was thinking more along these lines, based on experience I have had as a "free" photographer at family weddings:

For my cousin's wedding I knew that her father was her elementary school softball team coach, and that 4 of her former teammates were at the wedding. So I went to the different tables and gathered the five girls (bride plus four friends) and the father-of-the-bride/coach and we made some really fun pictures of them together - - one of which of which is one of my cousin's most prized pics from the wedding and is framed and on the wall of her family room. So the point is, the pros (she had two top of the line pro shooters from NYC) had no idea about the softball connection and never took this shot - - and as a family member I was able to arrange for the shot and capture a special time/emotion. (OTOH I am not a trained wedding photographer and would not have been able to achieve anything like the beautiful church photos the pros did.)
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So my suggestion to your inquiry is to think about what emotionally important pictures you could take for your sister - - in artistic ways, rather than thinking about how you might be able to attempt unusual photographic techniques.

 

[Derrel]

Since I was curious, I quickly flashed & pinholed myself. 1/20s.

AMAZING! CREATIVE! ALMOST IN FOCUS! GOOD LIGHTING WITHIN THE THREE FEET THE FLASH CARRIED!

DO YOU DO WEDDINGS? I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS SHOT WITHOUT FLASH! CAN I GET ALL OF THE SHOTS ON A DVD FOR $39 ?

HOW GOOD WILL MASSIVE 4x6" ENLARGEMENTS LOOK?

LOL.

 

[o hey tyler]

I would suggest thinking about being much more creative with the people aspect of the wedding, rather than trying any technical razzle-dazzle.

Your sister's wedding is going to be an emotional event for her, not an artistic one.

Why not use standard equipment and exposures, but use your freedom to capture the people and the emotions of the wedding for your sister - - in unique/interesting ways??

But I am going to do capture the moment in a unique and hopefully interesting way.
I also hired a photographer whose work I know well, and am totally confident in.
Besides, I will have all my gear with me, and two bodies, two flashes. I will be mixing it up. I already have a plan in my mind as to where I will tilt shift, where I will pinhole, and where I will go with standard lenses. People shouldn't assume I will shoot the whole wedding with a pinhole.

sw1tchFX, yeah the pin hole lens does look OOF. That's what I will run with. I have been looking at pictorial photography from the 20's and that's the look I want to go for. Back then lenses were advertised FOR there softness. I know it could be a total flop, I know I might not achieve the visions in my head, but I have to try it. I could get a lensbaby, but I'd rather do it with a "lens" that I made, that's how I am.

Derrel reminds me much of my dad, and a lot of my family. I have been an artist all my life being told that I will always be starving, and never make anything of myself, even to the point that when I already had this business I started a year and half ago and invited my dad up to see the shop I was building, which was the first he even knew what I was doing, I was asked what I knew about running a business, and did I think it was a smart time to do this with the economy being so bad. But now he is proud of me because I am successful. :roll: Thanks Derrel for telling me my idea stupid. That's all I needed to hear.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've done many stupid/risky things in my life, and I don't regret a single one.
My sister will have a special gift from her brother, I know she will appreciate it, and really, that's all that matters.

Fair enough. But I was thinking more along these lines, based on experience I have had as a "free" photographer at family weddings:

For my cousin's wedding I knew that her father was her elementary school softball team coach, and that 4 of her former teammates were at the wedding. So I went to the different tables and gathered the five girls (bride plus four friends) and the father-of-the-bride/coach and we made some really fun pictures of them together - - one of which of which is one of my cousin's most prized pics from the wedding and is framed and on the wall of her family room. So the point is, the pros (she had two top of the line pro shooters from NYC) had no idea about the softball connection and never took this shot - - and as a family member I was able to arrange for the shot and capture a special time/emotion. (OTOH I am not a trained wedding photographer and would not have been able to achieve anything like the beautiful church photos the pros did.)
​

So my suggestion to your inquiry is to think about what emotionally important pictures you could take for your sister - - in artistic ways, rather than thinking about how you might be able to attempt unusual photographic techniques.

Why can't you just let him enjoy the ****ing wedding and let the pro worry about the technicals? What do you have to gain if he shoots "for serious"? Nothing. He hired a pro that he feels can conquer the job so that he can enjoy the ceremony and jack off with his pinhole camera and tilt shift lens. That's what I'd be doing in his situation. Dicking around to the fullest extent. Drinking heavily and taking photos. Not worrying about composition and workflow. **** that garbage.

Get drunk, actuate shutters, win at life.

 

[reznap]

Get drunk, actuate shutters, win at life.

I just like the way this sounds.

Also, you have to admit that the photo posted by bigtwinky (bride with sun behind her) was an interesting shot and very unique.

 

[Derrel]

Can't wait to see how great your pinhole wedding shots are! Please, come back and post a buuuuuunch of them, and regale us with your amazing out of focus home-built pinhole's creative pics. I'm sure me and your Dad will both be sitting around, back-patting you, and telling you how amazing you are at defying the laws of optics. You'll be a hero to three or four people here as well!

 

[Ronaldo]

But I am going to do capture the moment in a unique and hopefully interesting way.
I also hired a photographer whose work I know well, and am totally confident in.
Besides, I will have all my gear with me, and two bodies, two flashes. I will be mixing it up. I already have a plan in my mind as to where I will tilt shift, where I will pinhole, and where I will go with standard lenses. People shouldn't assume I will shoot the whole wedding with a pinhole.

sw1tchFX, yeah the pin hole lens does look OOF. That's what I will run with. I have been looking at pictorial photography from the 20's and that's the look I want to go for. Back then lenses were advertised FOR there softness. I know it could be a total flop, I know I might not achieve the visions in my head, but I have to try it. I could get a lensbaby, but I'd rather do it with a "lens" that I made, that's how I am.

Derrel reminds me much of my dad, and a lot of my family. I have been an artist all my life being told that I will always be starving, and never make anything of myself, even to the point that when I already had this business I started a year and half ago and invited my dad up to see the shop I was building, which was the first he even knew what I was doing, I was asked what I knew about running a business, and did I think it was a smart time to do this with the economy being so bad. But now he is proud of me because I am successful. :roll: Thanks Derrel for telling me my idea stupid. That's all I needed to hear.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've done many stupid/risky things in my life, and I don't regret a single one.
My sister will have a special gift from her brother, I know she will appreciate it, and really, that's all that matters.

Fair enough. But I was thinking more along these lines, based on experience I have had as a "free" photographer at family weddings:

For my cousin's wedding I knew that her father was her elementary school softball team coach, and that 4 of her former teammates were at the wedding. So I went to the different tables and gathered the five girls (bride plus four friends) and the father-of-the-bride/coach and we made some really fun pictures of them together - - one of which of which is one of my cousin's most prized pics from the wedding and is framed and on the wall of her family room. So the point is, the pros (she had two top of the line pro shooters from NYC) had no idea about the softball connection and never took this shot - - and as a family member I was able to arrange for the shot and capture a special time/emotion. (OTOH I am not a trained wedding photographer and would not have been able to achieve anything like the beautiful church photos the pros did.)
​

So my suggestion to your inquiry is to think about what emotionally important pictures you could take for your sister - - in artistic ways, rather than thinking about how you might be able to attempt unusual photographic techniques.

Why can't you just let him enjoy the ****ing wedding and let the pro worry about the technicals? What do you have to gain if he shoots "for serious"? Nothing. He hired a pro that he feels can conquer the job so that he can enjoy the ceremony and jack off with his pinhole camera and tilt shift lens. That's what I'd be doing in his situation. Dicking around to the fullest extent. Drinking heavily and taking photos. Not worrying about composition and workflow. **** that garbage.

Get drunk, actuate shutters, win at life.

O hey, I get it now!

Dear Mr. Bitter Jeweler: Your first post was awesome. Everything about it - - your plans, your techniques and your artistic inspiration. Okay, except you need to drink a lot. The end.
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[Vautrin]

If I were one of the people getting married I'd tell you this was a completely messed up idea, and that even a second or third string shooter shouldn't be shooting a wedding via pinhole.

However artistically speaking, I'm fascinated, and would love to see shots of your experiment if people are OK with your shooting

I'd recommend trying out with models if possible, but please do post if you complete this project.

I think for this assignment preperation will be key. If you know you can shoot via pinhole with a fast enough shutter speed indoors in a reception hall, you're good to go.

 

[Derrel]

Since I was curious, I quickly flashed & pinholed myself. 1/20s.

I wanted to see what this image would look like as a 4x6 inch print, so I up-sampled it from 72 to 240 dpi,and set the size to 4x6 inch...

Wow...that's some picture quality! Impressive. And with flash for motion-stopping!
With the possibility of 4x6 inch prints that look this good, I'm surprised more people are not shooting pinhole weddings. The beauty part though will be the dust spots that a small aperture like f/128 to f/270 will create...it'll give a nice, dirty sensor look without even trying.

 

[loopy]

Sounds like a good plan - have fun. I shot slide film at my sister's wedding, then had it cross processed. I had no idea how the results would turn out - but hey it was fun and they were different than all the other photos. Some turned out lovely, some...well not so great.

 

[MissCream]

Get drunk, actuate shutters, win at life.

I just like the way this sounds.

Lol me too!
Mind if I use it in my signature Tyler?

 

[o hey tyler]

Get drunk, actuate shutters, win at life.

I just like the way this sounds.

Lol me too!
Mind if I use it in my signature Tyler?

I'll allow it, MissCream. Only because you asked so nicely.