Presenting unedited SOOC pics to clients

[SabrinaO]

How many shots per session are you showing each client that you feel it's a waste of time?

I don't even show my DH images that are SOOC. No way, No how.

What is DH?
And I don't think you get what I mean. I started off shooting around 100 pics per session. I'd edit about half of that and put it on cd for my clients.

Now to make my work and time cost effective... I have a set amount of pics my clients will get on CD. So if I show them all the soocs from the session in a gallery, they will choose about 20 pics they want on CD. Then i would just have to edit those instead of editing up to 100 pics.

DH = Darling Husband/Darn Husband.

So you are selling a disk of 20 images, why even show them? Pick the 20 best, edit those and send those off to the client on a disk. Problem solved.

Because I take about 75-100 pictures depending on the session. Most of the time clients want to see them all. No way im editing 100 pictures per session. Plus if i have a set amount of pics on CD, that gives me the opportunity to earn more and charge per add on photo.

 

[SabrinaO]

Now to make my work and time cost effective... I have a set amount of pics my clients will get on CD. So if I show them all the soocs from the session in a gallery, they will choose about 20 pics they want on CD. Then i would just have to edit those instead of editing up to 100 pics.

Are you shooting on location or in a studio?? Either way you could always ask them what poses they liked best and then choose the 20 yourself. I don't think there is anything wrong with you showing them your pics SOOC but I think it would be even more cost effective to just choose 20-30 of the best pictures (your opinion) and edit those and then choose the 20 yourself. No way would I edit all 100 pics from a shoot. Easier to pick your favorites and edit those.

Id just rather them pick their favorites for editing than me pick mine.

 

[gsgary]

What is DH?
And I don't think you get what I mean. I started off shooting around 100 pics per session. I'd edit about half of that and put it on cd for my clients.

Now to make my work and time cost effective... I have a set amount of pics my clients will get on CD. So if I show them all the soocs from the session in a gallery, they will choose about 20 pics they want on CD. Then i would just have to edit those instead of editing up to 100 pics.

DH = Darling Husband/Darn Husband.

So you are selling a disk of 20 images, why even show them? Pick the 20 best, edit those and send those off to the client on a disk. Problem solved.

Because I take about 75-100 pictures depending on the session. Most of the time clients want to see them all. No way im editing 100 pictures per session. Plus if i have a set amount of pics on CD, that gives me the opportunity to earn more and charge per add on photo.

If you are using studio lighting and custom white balance why cant you edit 1 in lightroom and apply those settings to all the shots just to show them it only takes minutes and them give them a slide show

 

[SabrinaO]

I let my clients choose the photos they want edited. A few years ago when I opened my studio I would pick which ones I thought were best but sometimes I would get clients who would wanted to see them all or wanted more pictures or would ask why a certain one wasn't edited etc. Now I edited a certain amount based on the length of the shoot and they get to pick which they want and if they want more then agreed upon they will have to pay extra ( amount of edited photos is always stated in my contracts). I find allowing them to choose is less of a hassle. However before showing clients I do minor touch ups to the image if they need to be done (lighting Etc) and obviously if there is a photo that is just plain awful I delete before uploading but that's usually not an issue.

EXACTLY! This is what I want to do!

:thumbup: on the minor touch ups if they need to be done!

 

[SabrinaO]

This is SOOC all i did was crop 8x6 and send to dye sub printer and customer had their mounted print from shot to print in less than 2 minutes, it's not perfect but i made £600 in 4 hours

OMG you cropped it didnt you??! Do you not sharpen for print?? You could have have burned those white lines in his right eye and erased some wonky hairs sticking out. This is what i'm talking about.

Even if you just cropped it.. why waste "2 minutes" of your life if your client didn't even want that photo??

I didn't waste 2 minutes, 2 minutes = £10 in my pocket

you are just so dense....

 

[MTVision]

Are you shooting on location or in a studio?? Either way you could always ask them what poses they liked best and then choose the 20 yourself. I don't think there is anything wrong with you showing them your pics SOOC but I think it would be even more cost effective to just choose 20-30 of the best pictures (your opinion) and edit those and then choose the 20 yourself. No way would I edit all 100 pics from a shoot. Easier to pick your favorites and edit those.

Id just rather them pick their favorites for editing than me pick mine.

OK. So, you already have your mind made up that you are going to show them the pics SOOC. It's not a horrible idea but you obviously didn't need advice. If that is what you want to do - then do it. As long as the clients are happy thats all that matters

 

[MWC2]

The only way around "wasting time" vs. SOOC images is to create and run a "close enough" action in PS as a batch process, show those and then edit the client's pics. I'm not sure if this is the way I would want to go, as you seem to be giving up a lot of your creative freedom, but to each their own.

 

[joealcantar]

Can we have a thread without issues? Getting old.
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Shoot well, Joe

 

[gsgary]

How can i be dense do you make $15 in 2 minutes on your shoots ? from what i have seen and read your shots would not be good enough SOOC

 

[MTVision]

BTW - checked out your website. I love the newborn pictures and the maternity pictures!

 

[SabrinaO]

How can i be dense do you make $15 in 2 minutes on your shoots ? from what i have seen and read your shots would not be good enough SOOC

You are just not getting it! Why would you waste 2 mins of your life if...KEY WORD: IF your client didn't even what that photo? And that 2 minutes adds up!
Say if you selected 50 of your favorite photos from a session. Then you cropped/sharpened/cloned/enhanced etc all those pics, but your client only liked about 20 from your set. Who knows.. they could of liked the ones that you didn't edit and they never even saw.

Basically what Im trying to do is save time. Im not trying to spend hours after a session editing pics if i don't have to. I just want to edit and enhance the ones they like. Most of the edits I do cant be done in a "batch" process or an action. I don't think batch cropping an image is a good idea. There are some enhancements that shouldn't be performed with an action or a batch process.

 

[SabrinaO]

Can we have a thread without issues? Getting old.
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Shoot well, Joe

ugh.. theres someone in this thread that loves to bring drama to all my threads, or tries to "show me up"

 

[SabrinaO]

How can i be dense do you make $15 in 2 minutes on your shoots ? from what i have seen and read your shots would not be good enough SOOC

Am I supposed to care what you think? LOL... have fun.

 

[SabrinaO]

BTW - checked out your website. I love the newborn pictures and the maternity pictures!

Thanks hun!

 

[MWC2]

How can i be dense do you make $15 in 2 minutes on your shoots ? from what i have seen and read your shots would not be good enough SOOC

You are just not getting it! Why would you waste 2 mins of your life if...KEY WORD: IF your client didn't even what that photo? And that 2 minutes adds up!
Say if you selected 50 of your favorite photos from a session. Then you cropped/sharpened/cloned/enhanced etc all those pics, but your client only liked about 20 from your set. Who knows.. they could of liked the ones that you didn't edit and they never even saw.

Basically what Im trying to do is save time. Im not trying to spend hours after a session editing pics if i don't have to. I just want to edit and enhance the ones they like. Most of the edits I do cant be done in a "batch" process or an action. I don't think batch cropping an image is a good idea. There are some enhancements that shouldn't be performed with an action or a batch process.

I don't want this to come off as rude or mean (because I'm really not that kind of person), but do you have any idea how snotty you come off in your posts? People here are trying to help YOU and you seem to be so unappreciative.

Edit/don't edit. It's totally your call. Do whatever you think is right for your business, but don't be surprised when your sales start to fall short. The average person can not see the potential beauty of an image, what they will see is a less than sharp, non-pleasing snapshot. A photographer friend of mine told me once the reason she doesn't show SOOC images is because she doesn't want to be known as a "great photoshopper" she wants her clients to think of her as a "great photographer". Keep the magic tricks a secret, clients don't need to know the HOW just the WOW.

My husband keeps telling that there are just some people that are looking for drama in their lives for whatever reason, it doesn't matter the topic, they seek out attention/drama everywhere they go. Looks like you unwittingly proved him right... darn it I really hate when I have to tell him he was right about something, he'll gloat for weeks.