Regarding Supposed TPF Bullies and Abuse Towards Newbies

[thetrue]

Better?!

You should have asked invisible if you could borrow Sybil for this rendition.

 

[ziggy84]

This so called "abuse" has done nothing but help me become a better photographer.

I agree. Being a newbie, I think I can give perspective on this. I've only been here since November, but I have learned a lot in the time frame. Some people just need to stop being so sensitive, or just don't ask. Dude should just ignore the negative people, and use the knowledge given to you by the ones willing to help you. I've came across some of my posts where sarcastic/rude reply's have been given, and I enjoy them. I think it's good to have a little humor. I've even asked people to be brutally honest with C&C on some of my photos. Some even tell me that my photos do nothing for them, etc. I look at that as a positive! I WANT TO KNOW why it doesn't work for them. I WANT TO KNOW what I can learn from that garbage photo. The way I see it, that's the only way I'll learn. You guys sugarcoating it doesn't help me at all, other than making me feel all warm and cozy inside...Naw, I'd rather learn from my garbage.

Yeah, I agree. There's good people here willing to help others grow. I have yet to see anyone here be vulgar or downright mean to anyone. Being too sensitive or having too much of a connection with your photos will a broken heart make. No one grows by having people tell them that their photo is without technical mistakes. If you really do like your photos, either don't ask for C&C on it or just let the critiquers opinion be their opinion. It is your photo and your art after-all.

There is a difference from being an outright dic* and C&C, right? It's called constructive criticism for a reason...

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

much better

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Dude??? That's just not right!!!!!





























lololz

LMFAO!

 

[AgentDrex]

It seems to me that a lack of positive and constructive communication (even though we have the easiest form of communication ever, the internet) has allowed these evil incidences to continue occurring. My original point was that I do not see any abuse happening here at TPF though some may claim there is. I wanted to find out where it is supposedly happening so we can put a stop to it as a loving community of like-minded individuals (and only one minor incidence was cited).

I was then chastised and told that it is a mods job to find and punish those that are abusive. I went on to spout off that it is our responsibility to stand up to bullying and not wait for others to do so. That includes the analog world as well as the digital world. I was also told that this is just the internet and people should learn to toughen up. It is my position that this digital world is no different than the analog world when it comes to being sensitive to other people regardless whether we ourselves are able to simply brush it off. This does not mean to sugar-coat but to think about how we treat others in both the internet and the world outside.

I felt this was an important discussion to be had, not because it necessarily happens here but that I noticed the attitude towards the discussion of it was frowned upon apparently. Seeing it mocked made me realize the mind-set of some people and their attitude towards open-communication about certain hurtful topics such as abuse and bullying. It seems people don't like to talk about it or feel the need to. If we don't communicate, things like these killings will only escalate. There are definite mental issues with us all whether we admit it or not. Unless we communicate openly, I don't see anything getting better.

 

[AgentDrex]

There is a difference from being an outright dic* and C&C, right? It's called constructive criticism for a reason...

I would say yes, there is a big difference. C&C I believe stands for Commenting and Critiquing. Both being constructive is ultimately helpful. Vagueness does not a better person make.

 

[kundalini]

Unless some stranger was so kind to pull him out and let him keep trucking along. Just like we all need to do. There are way bigger fish to fry in this world right now than to deal with this petty crap. The second-deadliest school shooting in US history just occurred where 20 children and 6 adults lost their lives, and we are worried about discussing this poo again? Come on, let's move on here.
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Oooooooohhh. That was a buzz kill. Goodnight folks. Only three more days until the end of the world. That really sucks too because I requested a day of vaction in January. All that accrued and carry-over time is shot to hell.

 

[Pallycow]

Unless some stranger was so kind to pull him out and let him keep trucking along. Just like we all need to do. There are way bigger fish to fry in this world right now than to deal with this petty crap. The second-deadliest school shooting in US history just occurred where 20 children and 6 adults lost their lives, and we are worried about discussing this poo again? Come on, let's move on here.
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Oooooooohhh. That was a buzz kill. Goodnight folks. Only three more days until the end of the world. That really sucks too because I requested a day of vaction in January. All that accrued and carry-over time is shot to hell.

I can't wait 'till Friday, soo looking forward to impending doom. I have my ricoflex with film loaded just in case it starts with an EMP, I want to take pictures in case it doesn't happen suddenly. The end that is.

 

[cgipson1]

Better?!

OUCH!

 

[AgentDrex]

Oooooooohhh. That was a buzz kill. Goodnight folks. Only three more days until the end of the world. That really sucks too because I requested a day of vaction in January. All that accrued and carry-over time is shot to hell.

Well, that's your vacation then. The end of the world. Suppose you can't pull that accrued time out early???

 

[AgentDrex]

I can't wait 'till Friday, soo looking forward to impending doom. I have my ricoflex with film loaded just in case it starts with an EMP, I want to take pictures in case it doesn't happen suddenly. The end that is.

Well, that is an awesome idea. Will you have time to develop it?

 

[Pallycow]

I can't wait 'till Friday, soo looking forward to impending doom. I have my ricoflex with film loaded just in case it starts with an EMP, I want to take pictures in case it doesn't happen suddenly. The end that is.

Well, that is an awesome idea. Will you have time to develop it?

Depends how many days of doom we get. I'm hoping it drags out at least for a few months or so, so we have time to enjoy it.

 

[AgentDrex]

I hope it is a spiritual revolution. A new chance for us all. But if it's doom...then yea....bring it on and drag it out...and photos or it didn't happen...

 

[Pallycow]

I hope it is a spiritual revolution. A new chance for us all. But if it's doom...then yea....bring it on and drag it out...and photos or it didn't happen...

Well if it's spiritual, and you wake up and get to work and notice a few are missing. Might wanna grab your bible as those of us left are pretty much F'ed.

Practice your "Rapture Jumping"

 

[ziggy84]

It seems to me that a lack of positive and constructive communication (even though we have the easiest form of communication ever, the internet) has allowed these evil incidences to continue occurring. My original point was that I do not see any abuse happening here at TPF though some may claim there is. I wanted to find out where it is supposedly happening so we can put a stop to it as a loving community of like-minded individuals (and only one minor incidence was cited).

I was then chastised and told that it is a mods job to find and punish those that are abusive. I went on to spout off that it is our responsibility to stand up to bullying and not wait for others to do so. That includes the analog world as well as the digital world. I was also told that this is just the internet and people should learn to toughen up. It is my position that this digital world is no different than the analog world when it comes to being sensitive to other people regardless whether we ourselves are able to simply brush it off. This does not mean to sugar-coat but to think about how we treat others in both the internet and the world outside.

I felt this was an important discussion to be had, not because it necessarily happens here but that I noticed the attitude towards the discussion of it was frowned upon apparently. Seeing it mocked made me realize the mind-set of some people and their attitude towards open-communication about certain hurtful topics such as abuse and bullying. It seems people don't like to talk about it or feel the need to. If we don't communicate, things like these killings will only escalate. There are definite mental issues with us all whether we admit it or not. Unless we communicate openly, I don't see anything getting better.

I would also like to see this degrading abuse as well. I had the impression someone being butt hurt because of what someone(s) said about their photos, etc.

Although, I would like to think communication will help with the violence that is happening, I don't think it truly will make a dent in it. Disturbed people will ALWAYS FIND A WAY to kill people. Where there is a will, there is a way. Back in the day before guns were big, people used knives. Humans overcome and adapt. Even if you got rid of guns all together, people will find ways to make them. You can learn a lot from history because it repeats itself. Look at this subject, and say the subject on the war on drugs; turn back to the prohibition era, did that work? No. Even with stricter gun laws there will always be THAT guy. Even if THAT guy can't get his hands on a gun, he'll use a knife, or something to get the job done. Communication does not make up for bad parenting.

 

[rexbobcat]

I hope it is a spiritual revolution. A new chance for us all. But if it's doom...then yea....bring it on and drag it out...and photos or it didn't happen...

It hasn't happened for thousands of years. Why would it start now?