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What I see most is Off Topic posts and snarky remarks just derailing a thread when someone might be asking a simple question about an accessory or lens or something we all deal with in the photography addiction. I don't see any abuse, but the mods may get to it before it I see it. I only log on every other day or so.

I can't find the thread now, but a guy was asking about a good low priced tripod. Spelled out his needs and budget in a concise OP. He even said that he couldn't afford a highend one and that he knew that he gets what he pays for. Then had the first 5 or so posts telling him nothing but get an expensive one. Then Derrel came in and linked to a Slik tripod that I bought because of his opinions of it and it being a good low priced option. Works great.

Now if the OP had come in and said "I needz halp!!!!11!!11one!!! I's hav ta get a cheap tripod that works great noa!!!1!1eleven!!1" I could understand. He didn't read any about the subject, didn't search, and didn't make a good post. That's one thing I've noticed about Derrel, if the OP makes a good post looking for opinions about a subject, he helps the fella along. But it's the wading through all the OT posts in other parts of the forum that make it tiresome for me to browse this place.

And I'm an old school OT troll on a couple other forums. But we keep our mischief to OT, and keep the rest of the site clean. That's my only problem I see. Otherwise, critique is good and people here give it in an OK fashion.
 
Wow and here I thought there was no possible way for this thread to spiral any more than it had already.
 
"This is the thread that never ends, yes, it goes on and on my friends...some people started reading it, not knowing what it was, now they'll continue reading it forever, just because...
This is the thread that never ends..." :biglaugh:

(with apologies to Lamb Chop, and to everyone who understands the reference and now has this song stuck in their head... :D )
 
Constructive feedback Express Yourself To Success » Characteristics of Good Constructive Feedback. It's as simple as that in most cases.

If you're a newbie, you don't know who the regulars are here, you don't know what other people's skills and experience are like either. People can feel attacked when they don't know the other individuals 'credentials'. Keeping feedback as constructive as possible helps the process. Then there are some with egos, not much can be done there if they feel they're right and don't know how to take feedback onboard. Goes both ways.
 
Well, I can only speak for myself. I don't hide behind a monitor. I try to treat people as though we were sitting across a table and I was being asked how I like their photos. I just don't get how the cruel comments are constructive and could possibly make an individual a "better photographer" As a whole, this is a great group, but there are one or two on here that I wouldn't be sharing a beer with any time soon.
 
Funny enough, the next thread I went to had bad examples of feedback, some comments not constructive.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...ites/309845-what-do-you-think-my-website.html

What you don't realize on that thread... is that many people have gone out of their way to try to help that OP in the past.... and all he does is argue, and deny. So there are some bad feelings there with quite a few people. Go back and read his old threads if you don't believe me. Also posting that.. puts at least one member on the hot seat.... which is not cool!

We are all human... once you convince us you are a turd, it will take a LOT of work to convince us otherwise.
 
Funny enough, the next thread I went to had bad examples of feedback, some comments not constructive.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...ites/309845-what-do-you-think-my-website.html

What you don't realize on that thread... is that many people have gone out of their way to try to help that OP in the past.... and all he does is argue, and deny. So there are some bad feelings there with quite a few people. Go back and read his old threads if you don't believe me. Also posting that.. puts at least one member on the hot seat.... which is not cool!

We are all human... once you convince us you are a turd, it will take a LOT of work to convince us otherwise.

wait what? i see people post links to train wreck treads all the time and noone ever seems to say anything about it... and if the OP DOES have a history of being argumentative concerning C&C, then why leave any at all? It just became an excuse to get on his thread and pick a fight with totally worthless...well, I cant even call some of it C&C, because it wasn't. just spiteful remarks.
 
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Funny enough, the next thread I went to had bad examples of feedback, some comments not constructive.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...ites/309845-what-do-you-think-my-website.html

What you don't realize on that thread... is that many people have gone out of their way to try to help that OP in the past.... and all he does is argue, and deny. So there are some bad feelings there with quite a few people. Go back and read his old threads if you don't believe me. Also posting that.. puts at least one member on the hot seat.... which is not cool!

We are all human... once you convince us you are a turd, it will take a LOT of work to convince us otherwise.

wait what? i see people post links to train wreck treads all the time and noone ever seems to say anything about it... and if the OP DOES have a history of being argumentative concerning C&C, then why leave any at all? It just became an excuse to get on his thread and pick a fight with totally worthless...well, I cant even call some of it C&C, because it wasn't. just spiteful remarks.

Yea! But if you want to shake your head in awe, and get some laughs... go back and read some of the initial threads! They would be funny if not so sad. Lots of tempers flying...
 
What you don't realize on that thread... is that many people have gone out of their way to try to help that OP in the past.... and all he does is argue, and deny. So there are some bad feelings there with quite a few people. Go back and read his old threads if you don't believe me. Also posting that.. puts at least one member on the hot seat.... which is not cool!

We are all human... once you convince us you are a turd, it will take a LOT of work to convince us otherwise.

wait what? i see people post links to train wreck treads all the time and noone ever seems to say anything about it... and if the OP DOES have a history of being argumentative concerning C&C, then why leave any at all? It just became an excuse to get on his thread and pick a fight with totally worthless...well, I cant even call some of it C&C, because it wasn't. just spiteful remarks.

Yea! But if you want to shake your head in awe, and get some laughs... go back and read some of the initial threads! They would be funny if not so sad. Lots of tempers flying...

damnit...speaking of train wrecks..now I WANT to go look!
 
wait what? i see people post links to train wreck treads all the time and noone ever seems to say anything about it... and if the OP DOES have a history of being argumentative concerning C&C, then why leave any at all? It just became an excuse to get on his thread and pick a fight with totally worthless...well, I cant even call some of it C&C, because it wasn't. just spiteful remarks.

Yea! But if you want to shake your head in awe, and get some laughs... go back and read some of the initial threads! They would be funny if not so sad. Lots of tempers flying...

damnit...speaking of train wrecks..now I WANT to go look!

hahaha.. I can name others if you are bored!!! Were you here for Photo Guy? lol!
 
Yea! But if you want to shake your head in awe, and get some laughs... go back and read some of the initial threads! They would be funny if not so sad. Lots of tempers flying...

damnit...speaking of train wrecks..now I WANT to go look!

hahaha.. I can name others if you are bored!!! Were you here for Photo Guy? lol!

Photo Guy was just so much awesomeness! We probably DID bully him, but Oh. My. Goodness. if you looked up clueless in the dictionary, you'd see his avatar. :lol:

Pixmedic: Because you are so generous to so many, I am going to give you a generous piece of advice--Do not bother to go look up those old threads Charlie mentions. Those are precious moments of your life that you will never be able to get back.
Now, if you could read photo guy's threads--THAT would be totally worth it! :lmao:
 
damnit...speaking of train wrecks..now I WANT to go look!

hahaha.. I can name others if you are bored!!! Were you here for Photo Guy? lol!

Photo Guy was just so much awesomeness! We probably DID bully him, but Oh. My. Goodness. if you looked up clueless in the dictionary, you'd see his avatar. :lol:

Pixmedic: Because you are so generous to so many, I am going to give you a generous piece of advice--Do not bother to go look up those old threads Charlie mentions. Those are precious moments of your life that you will never be able to get back.
Now, if you could read photo guy's threads--THAT would be totally worth it! :lmao:

There are still there.. I checked! ( at least most of them) I think some of the more vituperative ones may be gone!
 
hahaha.. I can name others if you are bored!!! Were you here for Photo Guy? lol!

Photo Guy was just so much awesomeness! We probably DID bully him, but Oh. My. Goodness. if you looked up clueless in the dictionary, you'd see his avatar. :lol:

Pixmedic: Because you are so generous to so many, I am going to give you a generous piece of advice--Do not bother to go look up those old threads Charlie mentions. Those are precious moments of your life that you will never be able to get back.
Now, if you could read photo guy's threads--THAT would be totally worth it! :lmao:

There are still there.. I checked! ( at least most of them) I think some of the more vituperative ones may be gone!

Guess I'll be popping me some popcorn later this afternoon and reliving the awesomeness... :big laugh:
 
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