self portrait

maruffner · Mar 8, 2011

these are the newest of me

1.

I know i blend in and that was done on purpose to make eyes stand out

2.

not sure i like this one all c&c welcome

Corvphotography · Mar 8, 2011

nice but is it me or are they a taaaad out of focus?

Trever1t · Mar 8, 2011

The first one could use some light on your hair, lighting on the face looks good.

maruffner · Mar 8, 2011

Trever1t said:
The first one could use some light on your hair, lighting on the face looks good.

That was done on purpose to make my face and mainly my eyes stand out

kundalini · Mar 8, 2011

maruffner said:
Trever1t said:

The first one could use some light on your hair, lighting on the face looks good.

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That was done on purpose to make my face and mainly my eyes stand out

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. What you have effectively done is to melt yourself into the dayk abyss of the background rather than accentuate your mask. I believe it is underexposed as well. Not meaning to get personal, but you have a rounder facial form. If you were to research on short lighting, I believe this would be a more flattering light pattern. This will put the modeling (shadowed side) towards the camera and will help elongate the face.

The second shot is completely flat for lighting.

You can also see that there are two catchlights in each eye. I would remove one of them, the more centerd, on the pupil.

Not a bad go at it. Thanks for sharing.

maruffner · Mar 8, 2011

kundalini said:
maruffner said:

Trever1t said:

The first one could use some light on your hair, lighting on the face looks good.

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That was done on purpose to make my face and mainly my eyes stand out

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I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. What you have effectively done is to melt yourself into the dayk abyss of the background rather than accentuate your mask. I believe it is underexposed as well. Not meaning to get personal, but you have a rounder facial form. If you were to research on short lighting, I believe this would be a more flattering light pattern. This will put the modeling (shadowed side) towards the camera and will help elongate the face.

The second shot is completely flat for lighting.

You can also see that there are two catchlights in each eye. I would remove one of them, the more centerd, on the pupil.

Not a bad go at it. Thanks for sharing.

No disrespect but the short lighting is not what i was going for as far as the flat lighting in the other image, im not sure if its the lighting or if its that im so pale and kinda washed out and thats kinda why i am not sure i like this image but thanks for the feedback.

doziergraphic · Mar 8, 2011

kundalini said:
maruffner said:

You can also see that there are two catchlights in each eye. I would remove one of them, the more centerd, on the pupil.

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i don't agree with that.

kundalini · Mar 8, 2011

maruffner said:
........ c&c welcome

Did I miss the joke?

doziergraphic said:
i don't agree with that.

Of course you don't. Why would you? Hell, I don't even agree with myself most of the time.
So you like the look of on-board flash too? How about little bit of red-eye for $hits & grins?

shadylady · Mar 8, 2011

It looks like the first photo is just too dark, and could definitely use some lighting. I know you said you wanted your eyes to stand out, but it they kind of blend with the whole picture as oppose to standing out.

Are these your first self portraits?

kundalini · Mar 8, 2011

doziergraphic said:
i don't agree with that.

I understand the comment now. Easily persuaded, are we?

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/people-photography/237677-model-shoot-cc.html

The difference between these shots and yours are the position of the catchlights. That does make a difference, but yet you had nothing else to add than you disagreed on this thread. Why did you disagree sir?

kundalini · Mar 8, 2011

doziergraphic said:
Sorry, thought I was allowed to give my opinion without being attacked for disagreeing. ..

You gave a statement without any recourse. Simply stating "I don't agree with that." is merely a wash, it holds little value. Back it up. I gave reasons for the short lighting comment and a recommendation for an alternative train of thought of why it might benefit the OP, but only gave commentary on the catchlights.... my bad. But I think anybody with an inkling of an idea could catch my drift. If I need to bring it down a notch, duley noted.

maruffner · Mar 10, 2011

shadylady said:
It looks like the first photo is just too dark, and could definitely use some lighting. I know you said you wanted your eyes to stand out, but it they kind of blend with the whole picture as oppose to standing out.

Are these your first self portraits?

Yes these are first self portraits i got bored so i went to studio to start playing and honestly what i am thinking would give me what i want and what all suggested is to take the image with the yellow gel back light and turn it B&W then do sc to bring out blue in eyes i have been working on it and will post with final results. In all honesty i dont think i did so bad for a first attempt

maruffner · Mar 10, 2011

kundalini said:
maruffner said:

........ c&c welcome

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Did I miss the joke?

What confused you about someone wanting to learn how to fix mistakes they made on first attempt self portrait? For someone who has alot to say how about a suggestion for next time.... or did that confuse you to begin with?? Because that was all i asked for was constructive and helpful comments. Why would you think that was a JOKE?! Are my pictures that displeasing for you to look at and give a suggestion because im no model?

kundalini · Mar 10, 2011

maruffner said:
What confused you about someone wanting to learn how to fix mistakes they made on first attempt self portrait? For someone who has alot to say how about a suggestion for next time.... or did that confuse you to begin with?? Because that was all i asked for was constructive and helpful comments. Why would you think that was a JOKE?! Are my pictures that displeasing for you to look at and give a suggestion because im no model?

I guess it was that 3 out of the 5 responders mentioned that #1 was either dark or underexposed. Your rebuttal was that the lighting was intentional. I made some suggestions that IMO would improve the next set of attempts at self portraits. In my mind, they were constructive and helpful comments and were given with well intentioned thoughts. Yet, you are still adamant that your lighting was how you wanted to show this image. So I was wondering if I missed something. I realize that when I said "Not a bad go at it." would have been received in a more positive light had I stated something like "You're off to a good start.". Your photos are not displeasing and you are the model. The exchange between doziergraphic and I was misplaced and I apologize, but it didn't concern you.

maruffner · Mar 11, 2011

my previous statement was made because your did i miss the joke is quoted with my statement of c&c welcome which is why i got a little defensive I apologize for being rude but can u see how with that quoted and your statement could have been misconstrued?