sony a77

[gsgary]

I have used one of these cameras and was not impressed with the panning or veiwfinder

What camera? If you used the a77, Ihjave questions for you.

I have use A55 which is a bag of **** in the studio and had a quick go with A77 didn't like it because i'm used to pro cameras

 

[o hey tyler]

I have used one of these cameras and was not impressed with the panning or veiwfinder

What camera? If you used the a77, Ihjave questions for you.

I have use A55 which is a bag of **** in the studio and had a quick go with A77 didn't like it because i'm used to pro cameras

Gary, you know you are all about the in camera HDR.

 

[argieramos]

OMG. You are so frustrating. You are prob just eating this up, aren't you.

If it cannot capture a but traveling at the very most 45mph from 50' using about a 70mm lens on an APS C sensor, what are the chances of it capturing a high speed airplane of similar magnification? What the hell is your point?

Ask yourself. Will you be able to follow a high speed plane in close magnification, when looking through the viewfinder?

 

[argieramos]

I have use A55 which is a bag of **** in the studio and had a quick go with A77 didn't like it because i'm used to pro cameras

A55 is not meant for studio shooting. You said you are used to pro cameras? And you have used the a55? a55 is not a
Pro level camera just to let you know.

Since you have experienced the a77, you ready for my questions?

 

[unpopular]

So you are asking if I didn't have a EVF, couldI track a high speed object at close proximity and your assertion being that it doesn't matter because it's impossible to do so anyway. That's kind of absurd, and you can look at any aerobatics enthusiast to see that is not the case. If you're talking about my personal ability, that doesn't matter.

Even if a traditional SLR can only reach at the most 12fps, it is still better than the EVF provided that the 1/10 sec lag is accurate. While teh shutter goes dark for the duration of the exposure plus a few microseconds after, there is no lag when the mirror is back in place and as a result you can correct your position.

However, if the information which you are using to adjust the pan is not synchronous with the subject, then you are operating under faulty information about the placement of the subject.

 

[argieramos]

So you are asking if I didn't have a EVF, couldI track a high speed object at close proximity and your assertion being that it doesn't matter because it's impossible to do so anyway. That's kind of absurd, and you can look at any aerobatics enthusiast to see that is not the case. If you're talking about my personal ability, that doesn't matter.

That is my point. The EVF ability to follow a high speed subject in close magnification bothers you, but you ignore the fact that you wouldn't be able to do that with OVF either.

Even if a traditional SLR can only reach at the most 12fps, it is still better than the EVF provided that the 1/10 sec lag is accurate. While teh shutter goes dark for the duration of the exposure plus a few microseconds after, there is no lag when the mirror is back in place and as a result you can correct your position.

However, if the information which you are using to adjust the pan is not synchronous with the subject, then you are operating under faulty information about the placement of the subject.

What information are you talking about?
I hate to keep repeating myself. If an object is moving so quickly that it defeats the alleged evf lag, chances are you won't be able to follow that object even with OVF because you are looking through VF. With EVF, it will not be a problem to follow a football player, speedy plane, fast moving car, etc. so what's your problem? You are just looking at a simple flaw of the technology, and exaggerate it without pointing out the advantages it will give to photographer. Haters gonna hate on simple things. Thats the problem with people who only look for flaws from the internet without even trying the camera.

 

[unpopular]

you're hopeless.

 

[Nikon_Josh]

The haters gonna hate, y'all! Dudes on this forum is straight tripping on Sony A77, playa's gonna hate the game but they gotta respect it!

 

[Omofo]

Must I repeat "the evf on the A77 has a refresh rate of 60Hz". End of discussion.

 

[Derrel]

In the side-by-side shootout between the Nikon D7000 and the Sony A77, they specifically mention that BOTH CAMERAS are using KIT LENSES. So, the footing is equal, kit lens vs kit lens.The Sony quickly burns through its buffer, then drops to around "less than one frame per second", and the Sony suffers from erratic light metering. The Nikon D7000 has excellent light metering throughout the entire sequence, and drops to around 2 frames per second after its buffer has been filled.

Nikon's in-camera light and flash metering technology and intellectual property is second to none. Nikon invented "matrix" metering and the use of computer chips and analysis of scenes compared against actual photographs stored in the computer's memory. Nikon "invented" Red-Green-Blue "color-aware" light metering. Nikon "invented" the use of subject color measurement and analysis paired with Autofocus, with both user-selected start points, and with the automated Scene Recognition System. Nikon has been making "professional" cameras since before the Korean War....that is decidedly not the case with Sony. Nikon cameras have been aboard every single US space mission,spanning from the 1960's to the 2010's.

There's very little doubt as to why a cheap Nikon with a cheap kit lens can out-meter, and out-focus a Sony camera. Only within the last year and a half has Canon figured out a method to get around Nikon's patented RGB color-aware metering and focusing; Canon did it by adding a FOURTH color to analyze!!! Yellow-Green!!! Which incidentally,is something the Japanese people and the Japanese language actually take note of: how much yellow there is in the greens!

So yeah, argie, I am aware, fully aware, that BOTH cameras used kit lenses in the test. And the Nikon was the better performer.

 

[gsgary]

So you are asking if I didn't have a EVF, couldI track a high speed object at close proximity and your assertion being that it doesn't matter because it's impossible to do so anyway. That's kind of absurd, and you can look at any aerobatics enthusiast to see that is not the case. If you're talking about my personal ability, that doesn't matter.

That is my point. The EVF ability to follow a high speed subject in close magnification bothers you, but you ignore the fact that you wouldn't be able to do that with OVF either.

Even if a traditional SLR can only reach at the most 12fps, it is still better than the EVF provided that the 1/10 sec lag is accurate. While teh shutter goes dark for the duration of the exposure plus a few microseconds after, there is no lag when the mirror is back in place and as a result you can correct your position.

However, if the information which you are using to adjust the pan is not synchronous with the subject, then you are operating under faulty information about the placement of the subject.

What information are you talking about?
I hate to keep repeating myself. If an object is moving so quickly that it defeats the alleged evf lag, chances are you won't be able to follow that object even with OVF because you are looking through VF. With EVF, it will not be a problem to follow a football player, speedy plane, fast moving car, etc. so what's your problem? You are just looking at a simple flaw of the technology, and exaggerate it without pointing out the advantages it will give to photographer. Haters gonna hate on simple things. Thats the problem with people who only look for flaws from the internet without even trying the camera.

I didn't see any advantages, Sony don't tell you the A55 is not for studio people have to find out after buying it, i did a serch after using one

 

[Omofo]

The Sony quickly burns through its buffer, then drops to around "less than one frame per second", and the Sony suffers from erratic light metering. The Nikon D7000 has excellent light metering throughout the entire sequence, and drops to around 2 frames per second after its buffer has been filled.

The Sony is shooting at twice the fps, so it stands to reason that the buffer is going to fill faster...

 

[unpopular]

Must I repeat "the evf on the A77 has a refresh rate of 60Hz". End of discussion.

maybe. but look at my reply the first time your brought this up.

 

[Derrel]

The Sony quickly burns through its buffer, then drops to around "less than one frame per second", and the Sony suffers from erratic light metering. The Nikon D7000 has excellent light metering throughout the entire sequence, and drops to around 2 frames per second after its buffer has been filled.

The Sony is shooting at twice the fps, so it stands to reason that the buffer is going to fill faster...

Yes,and while the buffer is full, the Nikon is shooting twice as fast with its filled buffer! Meaning the Sony's huge 24 megapixel files are a PITA to write to card!!!

But what explains the sucky light-metering from the Sony? Inferior technology I guess one might say...

 

[Crollo]

But what explains the sucky light-metering from the Sony? Inferior technology I guess one might say...

you cant not use a bad lens, it does not good when you don't give it good lens, like kit lens!