sony a77

[Derrel]

Yeah, the A77 managed to catch a bus going a blistering 35 MILES PER HOUR through a residential area at approx 150ft away while almost perpendicular to the front lens element. WOW! That's some real advanced technology. Sony must have spent a couple of hundred dollars devising that neat piece of SLT wizardry.

Brilliantly stated. A HUGE, white subject surrounded by green foliage, at a long distance, moving almost entirely perpendicular to the film plane....I can focus on that kind of a target with a manual focus lens and NAIL focus. Easily. A bus! Really??? A bus!!! Hilarious! I know, I know, it's not quite a s big as a house...but you see, on the Digital Rev comparison with the A77 WITH UPDATED FIRMWARE, shot head-to-head with the Nikon D7000, the A77 doesn't perform all that well on one,single athlete at close range.

Not surprisingly, the D7000's matrix pattern metering (invented by Nikon in the early 1980's) gives better and more-consistent exposures than the Sony A77 does, under pretty simple blue-sky lighting conditions. At 12 FPS, the A77's buffer fills really quickly, and then slows to a crawl...less than one frame per second...the Nikon shoots around 2 FPS after its buffer has been filled and as it is being flushed to the storage media.

See for yourselves...

 

[unpopular]

You're in denial if that looks like a 35mph speed to you. How about the high speed plane flying around?

Relative to the camera, the bus may very well be moving faster.

Now. How is that possible, mr. post processing extraordinaire?

ETA: wait a minute .... wasn't THAT WAS A BIRD!

 

[argieramos]

Brilliantly stated. A HUGE, white subject surrounded by green foliage, at a long distance, moving almost entirely perpendicular to the film plane....I can focus on that kind of a target with a manual focus lens and NAIL focus. Easily. A bus! Really??? A bus!!! Hilarious! I know, I know, it's not quite a s big as a house...but you see, on the Digital Rev comparison with the A77 WITH UPDATED FIRMWARE, shot head-to-head with the Nikon D7000, the A77 doesn't perform all that well on one,single athlete at close range.

Not surprisingly, the D7000's matrix pattern metering (invented by Nikon in the early 1980's) gives better and more-consistent exposures than the Sony A77 does, under pretty simple blue-sky lighting conditions. At 12 FPS, the A77's buffer fills really quickly, and then slows to a crawl...less than one frame per second...the Nikon shoots around 2 FPS after its buffer has been filled and as it is being flushed to the storage media.

See for yourselves...YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bXkRx2Jc0

I thought you are an accomplished photographer? You are not acting as one, no offense. First of all, the current firmware is 1.04. The a77 that DigitalRev used was running on old firmware 1.03, so you are very wrong. You do know that the reviewer was using the cheap kit lens on the a77, right? Not the kind of kitlens that comes with the a77 that optimized its resolution and speed. The fThat's one of the factor that you failed to point out. Camera speed means nothing if the lens can't keep up. You should know that.
Let me quote this statement from one of the review of the a77;
" In stills, the autofocus surprises me in that it can generally grab subjects at the far extremes of the frame and track them well as they cross the frame. Great job, Sony. You solved the Autofocus DSLR problem. Nikon, Canon, take note."

Source: The Verge

Let's get back to video. When the reviewer changed lens with a kit lens something equal to Sony, the performance was about equal, right? The a77 was faster but filled the buffer quickly. Try not to fill the buffer, is that much big of a problem? Unless you do full burst on a full lap of racing, I don't see it as a big problem.

Oh yea, I was talking about the panning with EVF when I used the bus as an example. Not about the AF. Next time try to read everything.

You haven't answer my question. What is the real camera to you?

 

[argieramos]

Relative to the camera, the bus may very well be moving faster.

Now. How is that possible, mr. post processing extraordinaire?

ETA: wait a minute .... wasn't THAT WAS A BIRD!

Are you having a mental breakdown? Not surprised lol

 

[Crollo]

"THE A77 PERFORMS PERFECTLY FINE IN LESS THEN IDEAL CONDITIONS, I EVEN MADE UP A BULL STORY THAT HAS NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER TO PROVE IT!"
"Well what about this video made by a highly respected knowledgeable show?"
"well no DUH if you give it less then ideal performance it's not going to perform well, what did you THINK was gonna happen?"

I can almost feel my own IQ dropping reading his posts.

 

[gsgary]

Brilliantly stated. A HUGE, white subject surrounded by green foliage, at a long distance, moving almost entirely perpendicular to the film plane....I can focus on that kind of a target with a manual focus lens and NAIL focus. Easily. A bus! Really??? A bus!!! Hilarious! I know, I know, it's not quite a s big as a house...but you see, on the Digital Rev comparison with the A77 WITH UPDATED FIRMWARE, shot head-to-head with the Nikon D7000, the A77 doesn't perform all that well on one,single athlete at close range.

Not surprisingly, the D7000's matrix pattern metering (invented by Nikon in the early 1980's) gives better and more-consistent exposures than the Sony A77 does, under pretty simple blue-sky lighting conditions. At 12 FPS, the A77's buffer fills really quickly, and then slows to a crawl...less than one frame per second...the Nikon shoots around 2 FPS after its buffer has been filled and as it is being flushed to the storage media.

See for yourselves...YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bXkRx2Jc0

I thought you are an accomplished photographer? You are not acting as one, no offense. First of all, the current firmware is 1.04. The a77 that DigitalRev used was running on old firmware 1.03, so you are very wrong. You do know that the reviewer was using the cheap kit lens on the a77, right? Not the kind of kitlens that comes with the a77 that optimized its resolution and speed. The fThat's one of the factor that you failed to point out. Camera speed means nothing if the lens can't keep up. You should know that.
Let me quote this statement from one of the review of the a77;
" In stills, the autofocus surprises me in that it can generally grab subjects at the far extremes of the frame and track them well as they cross the frame. Great job, Sony. You solved the Autofocus DSLR problem. Nikon, Canon, take note."

Source: The Verge

Let's get back to video. When the reviewer changed lens with a kit lens something equal to Sony, the performance was about equal, right? The a77 was faster but filled the buffer quickly. Try not to fill the buffer, is that much big of a problem? Unless you do full burst on a full lap of racing, I don't see it as a big problem.

Oh yea, I was talking about the panning with EVF when I used the bus as an example. Not about the AF. Next time try to read everything.

You haven't answer my question. What is the real camera to you?

Looks like your getting desperate now

 

[argieramos]

Looks like your getting desperate now

How am I getting desperate? Explain....

 

[gsgary]

Looks like your getting desperate now

How am I getting desperate? Explain....

I have used one of these cameras and was not impressed with the panning or veiwfinder

 

[argieramos]

"THE A77 PERFORMS PERFECTLY FINE IN LESS THEN IDEAL CONDITIONS, I EVEN MADE UP A BULL STORY THAT HAS NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER TO PROVE IT!"
"Well what about this video made by a highly respected knowledgeable show?"
"well no DUH if you give it less then ideal performance it's not going to perform well, what did you THINK was gonna happen?"

I can almost feel my own IQ dropping reading his posts.

It's just you. If you are feeling that way, why stay here? It seems like your IQ is already reaching the lowest as it can get. You still have time.

 

[unpopular]

It's funny that you have problem with SLT delay with the fact that you never got your hands on one.
Good news for action panners with A77's EVF...: Sony SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

2:10 - BIRD!



Besides it doesn't matter. The speed of the subject is relative to it's magnification not it's absolute speed. A high speed bird traveling at 600km/h, 5000' away will be slower relative to the camera than a bicycle traveling 5km/h three feet away using any given lens.

AND that's also beside the point because the frame rate, according to this video anyway, declines in continuous burst and does so in such a erratic way that you couldn't even hope to compensate for it.

 

[argieramos]

I have used one of these cameras and was not impressed with the panning or veiwfinder

What camera? If you used the a77, Ihjave questions for you.

 

[argieramos]

2:10 - BIRD!

Besides it doesn't matter. The speed of the subject is relative to it's magnification not it's absolute speed. A high speed bird traveling at 600km/h, 5000' away will be slower relative to the camera than a bicycle traveling 5km/h three feet away using any given lens.

AND that's also beside the point because the frame rate, according to this video anyway, declines in continuous burst and does so in such a erratic way that you couldn't even hope to compensate for it.

You really don't want to move on from the bus huh? Compensate for what?
Haters nowadays. They have infinite source of things to hate lol

 

[unpopular]

What camera? If you used the a77, Ihjave questions for you.

DON'T ANSWER GARY! IT'S A TRAP!

 

[argieramos]

DON'T ANSWER GARY! IT'S A TRAP!

Oh look, he found a friend lol

 

[unpopular]

2:10 - BIRD!

Besides it doesn't matter. The speed of the subject is relative to it's magnification not it's absolute speed. A high speed bird traveling at 600km/h, 5000' away will be slower relative to the camera than a bicycle traveling 5km/h three feet away using any given lens.

AND that's also beside the point because the frame rate, according to this video anyway, declines in continuous burst and does so in such a erratic way that you couldn't even hope to compensate for it.

You really don't want to move on from the bus huh? How about the high speed plane?
Haters nowadays. They have infinite source of things to hate lol

OMG. You are so frustrating. You are prob just eating this up, aren't you.

If it cannot capture a bus traveling at the very most 45mph from 50' using about a 70mm lens on an APS C sensor, what are the chances of it capturing a high speed airplane of similar magnification? What the hell is your point?