Suggestions? No lens, no money.

doomhart · Nov 22, 2010

What happened (and is happening, and is going to happen probably) to this thread (pattern):
1. OP (who is in HS, point:experience) asks for help
2. People (some have many years of experience) put in their 2 cents according to amassed knowledge and experience.
3. OP argues the Peoples input.
4. Some People put more of their 2 cents (total:4 cents :lol:

), and some starts arguing against OP.
5. Go back to either 2, 3, 4.

Oh the freedom of the internet. Just listen to these people. They know what they're saying. At least most of them :sexywink:

English is my second language too btw.

Chamelion 6 · Nov 22, 2010

doomhart said:
What happened (and is happening, and is going to happen probably) to this thread (pattern):
1. OP (who is in HS, point:experience) asks for help
2. People (some have many years of experience) put in their 2 cents according to amassed knowledge and experience.
3. OP argues the Peoples input.
4. Some People put more of their 2 cents (total:4 cents), and some starts arguing against OP.
5. Go back to either 2, 3, 4.

Oh the freedom of the internet. Just listen to these people. They know what they're saying. At least most of them

English is my second language too btw.

I think I've got about 86 cents invested in this thread. When I get over a buck I'm gonna start billing him and that's just gonna set back his new gear even further. :lol:

den9 · Nov 22, 2010

Chiuy said:
Now... when did I ever said that I wanted someone to donate a lens to me? Stop making those craps up. If I could get a job right now, I would.
Even on the weekend I spend most of my time studying. Taking classes related to Biomedical Engineering is kind of tough you know.
And if you're wondering why I'm on this forum and not studying it's cause I'm on an one week break off from school.
Right now, I'm using a cheap $30 flash, $20 50" tripod, and a Canon XSi that was used for $400 with the standard kit lenses. That's pretty cheap back then cause I got lucky.

I met some professional photographers in my area, they said that my works were pretty fantastic. I also do a lot of experiments on photography and sometime they will ask me for some tips on how I take those pictures with the lenses I have. Those photographers are friendly, I don't know what's wrong with this forum.

In another 8 years though, I can probably afford anything I want.

then what are you looking for? we gave you advice, and the facts of life, you dont seem to accept it, if you want our sympathy go look else where.

and stop trying to make us feel bad by saying everyone hates you, or we just might.

DirtyDFeckers · Nov 22, 2010

To the OP, throughout this thread, I see you say that things are "not the best." Dude, you are a high school student, what do you expect? With the exception of a few, most of the photographers on this forum were using what you might consider "junk" at your age. If you can't go out and enjoy shooting with what you have, then you should consider a new hobby. It isn't about being excited because of the equipment you are shooting with. Sorry to say, but you have nicer equipment than a lot of people, so stop whining, seriously. What answer, other than "save money," did you really expect?

manaheim · Nov 22, 2010

OH YEAH?! WELL ALL YOU PEOPLE JUST SMELL LIKE ROTTEN CABBAGE!!

Oh, I'm sorry... was that somehow more off the rails than, say, most of the rest of the thread? Silly me.

Chiuy · Nov 22, 2010

Please do tell me where I used the word "AP" to define myself as smart? I'm only using that as an excuse for why I can't get a part time job. I don't even know how the heck we got into this topic and I never said that I'm smart or you're dumb.

spoiled youth of today

Well then... who's generation raised us? Which generation left us over 13 trillion dollars in debt that we are going to have to fix in the near future somehow?
If I was truly spoiled, I would be begging my parents to buy these lenses for me, but that just doesn't seem right, now is it? This is why I'll probably just going to wait till I get a decent job.

Stem cell research goes back to the 60s, yes, but you still need research on it. We know a lot more about stem cell research compared in the 60s. Human body is constantly changing, it's called evolution and adapting. It may not be changing a lot, but it's changing slowly.

tommypalloj · Nov 22, 2010

He meant spoiled as in expecting for something to be handed to you. When you can't afford something you save for it, or get a credit card and fall in debt yourself.

manaheim · Nov 22, 2010

Wow, I think the train just crashed into another train about 3000 miles from the point where it leapt off the tracks.

Bitter Jeweler · Nov 22, 2010

Manny, these threads are great for increasing your post count.

Chamelion 6 · Nov 22, 2010

Chiuy said:
Stem cell research goes back to the 60s, yes, but you still need research on it. We know a lot more about stem cell research compared in the 60s. Human body is constantly changing, it's called evolution and adapting. It may not be changing a lot, but it's changing slowly.

So how has any of this impacted you, personally, as a student of high school biology? Give me an example of someting that my education missed because it wasn't discovered or invented yet.

If we could disect old King Ramses or Kurg the caveman I think we're gonna find his biology to be pretty much the same as ours.......

That's not what evolution is about. We all got the same basic anatomy and physiology. This may come as a shock, but if you tie a rock to your ankles and jump in a lake you're highly unlikely to adapt and grow gills... Even though you already have the genes for them. Don't try it.

And I admit I'm not exactly a kid anymore but Newtonian physics still predates me.

den9 · Nov 22, 2010

Chiuy said:
Stem cell research goes back to the 60s, yes, but you still need research on it. We know a lot more about stem cell research compared in the 60s. Human body is constantly changing, it's called evolution and adapting. It may not be changing a lot, but it's changing slowly.

..................

den9 · Nov 22, 2010

OP, what exactly are you trying to achieve with this thread?

are you not over the fact that equipment costs money, and you dont have a job?

DirtyDFeckers · Nov 22, 2010

Chiuy said:
Now... when did I ever said that I wanted someone to donate a lens to me? Stop making those craps up. If I could get a job right now, I would.
Even on the weekend I spend most of my time studying. Taking classes related to Biomedical Engineering is kind of tough you know.
And if you're wondering why I'm on this forum and not studying it's cause I'm on an one week break off from school.
Right now, I'm using a cheap $30 flash, $20 50" tripod, and a Canon XSi that was used for $400 with the standard kit lenses. That's pretty cheap back then cause I got lucky.

I met some professional photographers in my area, they said that my works were pretty fantastic. I also do a lot of experiments on photography and sometime they will ask me for some tips on how I take those pictures with the lenses I have. Those photographers are friendly, I don't know what's wrong with this forum.

In another 8 years though, I can probably afford anything I want.

I just read this ^^^ after my first response to this thread. After looking at your Flickr, I highly doubt any pro's would ask your advice. I have read on here over and over, people telling you to be more creative with what you have, and you argue back... Now it all makes sense... you lack the creativity.... And there is nothing wrong with the people on this forum, except they are ADULTS who have better things to do than tell a hard headed high school kid the same thing over and over. Either accept their answers, or move on dude, it's as simple as that. Part of growing up is realizing that you aren't always going to hear what you want to hear... its life...sorry to break it to you.

DirtyDFeckers · Nov 22, 2010

Chiuy said:
Oops, I apologize, after reading his posts again and that he was recently in college. My bad.
So you should know that AP Classes are quite stressful when you have like 6 of them and that you have very limited amount of time of finishing your homework.

@Bitter, but you do have to admit though, classes of today are much harder than the classes of yesterday. More information to absorb, even the standards are much higher. Even all my teachers said that the classes of today are harder than what they have learned.

Classes are the same as they have always been... Face it, the distractions of today make classes "seem" harder.... "hmmmm, do I listen to the teacher today, or play a cool game on my iPhone?" See what I mean?