Switching to mirrorless.. Nikon or Sony?

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  1. brunerww

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    Hi f18 - you've gotten a lot of good advice already - all I would add is that, if your heart is set on getting a Sony, you should pre-order the newer camera - the A6000 with the 16-50 power zoom. It will cost you less money than a body-only NEX-7 and will give you updated features (e.g., more focus points, a faster frame rate for continuous shooting, wi-fi and NFC).

    Hope this is helpful!

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    Is the m4/3 sensor large enough to allow for DoF control needed for portraiture? How wide does one need to shoot with m4/3 to have a shallow enough depth of field?
     
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    I was using long fast Canon lenses on m4/3, so my DOF was always razor thin anyway. Just looking at what Panasonic has alone without the Oly lenses ....

    Panasonic Lenses: Digital Photography Review

    A good range of native lenses for sure. Noticed the 45.2mm F/1.2, probably something along those lines, but I don't know enough about portraits. Mind you it's around $1500 US, so its not exactly cheap.

    Panasonic Leica DG Nocticron 42.5mm F1.2 ASPH OIS: Digital Photography Review

    All the best and have a look at the Oly lenses as well.

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    I work in a retail camera store, I never recommend the Nikon over the Sony mirrorless. The Sony's have larger sensors, more lens selection, and it's obvious Sony took more time designing them since they are currently revamping the entire line. i.e. Sony A6000. I agree with ronlane and would definitely consider looking into Fuji as well. My store isn't a Fuji dealer so I can't tell you much more than what I've read.


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    I am a happy X-T1 owner. The lens selection isn't very broad, but what are available are able to get the job done. If you get an X mount you can open the door to Leica lenses.
     
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    I used the Sony NEX 5 6 and 7 and still have a 3n. I did can not get used by the handeling en menu structure of the Sony. Also had the opportunity to try the 7r. but also dit not like the handeling. Also the service of Sony is in the Netherlands not so good. I had some bad experience with them. Sony has also not that much good native glass. When wanting good class you have to look had the zeis.

    Also did test the Canon M. But this feels like a toy and not in balance with the lenses. Canon as missed the boat so far.

    Also use a Fujifilm X Pro1 and X T1 and like these camera the most. After using the X T1 for a few months I decided to sell the Canon set. (5D3 24-70 II 70-200 II etc) Fujifilm has a very nice lineup of high quality glass. Like the 56mm is a very good fast prime
     
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    I'm looking at the Soyt A7R myself.
     
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    This is the route I took. I picked up a bargain Olympus E-PL1 on sale to try out the system and compare with the Canon APS-C bodies and EF lenses (incl 2 "L" series) I was using at the time. At 72 I was looking to quit playing "packmule" with heavy glass and the m4/3 fit the bill perfectly. I sold off the Canon stuff and went mostly Panasonic with the GH2 and began acquiring lenses. Went with the GH3 when it came out, and now getting used to the new GH4. By making the change I lost NOTHING in the way of sharpness or IQ.

    Sensor size diff between APS-C and 4/3s is negligible but whatta difference in the weight of gear I wind up packing on any given project. Primary focus is motion picture but being a retired professional photographer I want decent stills that go up to 16x20 and larger without a problem. The selection of "native" optics for m4/3 is about the most extensive in the mirrorless arena and most of it is excellent.

    My 2 cents worth and probably worth what you just paid for it.
     
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    Portraiture was one of the main things I did until retirement and I still do enough to keep my "hand in". I have no problem with DOF control for portraiture with m4/3. I use f5.6 to f1.8 on a 14-45mm "kit" lens at the 45mm end, f5.6-f1.8 on the Oly 45mm and 75mm primes, and the entire zoom range of the Lumix 45 to 200mm f4 - f5.6 lens (and same with the Oly 40-150mm). Aperture is only one aspect of DOF control; perspective, proper management of camera to subject distance and subject to background elements distance, and lens focal length all factor in.

    Many have fun describing how "bad" kit lenses can be but I've seen some nice selective focus work (somewhat "shallow" DOF) done with the much maligned 18-55mm Canon "kit" lens and same with the Olympus and Lumix 14-42mm "kit" lens. Depends on the experience level, knowledge, and visual sense of the individual behind the camera.

    I've done portraiture with 4x5 view camera, 70mm long roll electric advance cameras, 6x7cm RB67's, 6x6cm Hasselblads, 35mm SLR (Nikon & Canon), APS-C, and now m4/3. I can generally get what I want, film or sensor size has not been a constraint.
     
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    I have had the Nikon J4 with 18mp sensor same one as in the Nikon V3 i think, i previously has the S1 with an 10mp sensor, I found the J4 photo`s very noisy unlike the S1 photo`s 18mp is too much for an 1" sensor.

    I also has the Sony 3N and it`s a great camera with a full aps-c sensor but i still prefered the Nikon S1 photo`s

    John.
     
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    I am a pretty avid Nikon fan, but for mirror less Sony is winning the game currently. I would have a look at the a7r
     

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