The DSLR is obsolete? Oh.

[nerwin]

By the time dslrs are obsolete, your current gear will be obsolete anyway. Mirrorless cameras have a short film to flange distance, so all your lenses will likely be compatible.

I don't think there is any reason to run out and switch to Fuji.

Unless you value image quality. Then definitely switch to fuji

I wont use Fuji until Fuji and Adobe can get along together.

 

[robbins.photo]

So what should we do now? Keep using what we have until mirrorless cameras can fully replace DSLRs or should we sell now while they are still worth something?

I'm sticking with DSLR - by the time mirrorless can replace my current DSLR it will either be worn out or practically worthless anyway because it will be 5-10 years old by then. I bought my used and it was a few years behind the curve when I got it.

 

[unpopular]

An electronic shutter wouldn't be a bad thing. I had a yashicamat that would drag on the lower speeds, which wasn't horrible, b/w film is flexible.

Except when it wouldn't close and I had to it it against something more or less guaranteeing that my shot would be 4 stops over.

 

[unpopular]

By the time dslrs are obsolete, your current gear will be obsolete anyway. Mirrorless cameras have a short film to flange distance, so all your lenses will likely be compatible.

I don't think there is any reason to run out and switch to Fuji.

Unless you value image quality. Then definitely switch to fuji

I wont use Fuji until Fuji and Adobe can get along together.

Silky is WAY better than Lightroom.

 

[nerwin]

By the time dslrs are obsolete, your current gear will be obsolete anyway. Mirrorless cameras have a short film to flange distance, so all your lenses will likely be compatible.

I don't think there is any reason to run out and switch to Fuji.

Unless you value image quality. Then definitely switch to fuji

I wont use Fuji until Fuji and Adobe can get along together.

Silky is WAY better than Lightroom.

Maybe so, but I certainly don't like the fact you need to process the raw images before you import them into Lightroom. I like what Lightroom does to my raw files from the D610, it just works wonderfully and I finally figured out a organization system that works perfect for me, still tweaking as we speak actually! Haha.

 

[unpopular]

No. I get you. I just really dislike Lightroom. Feels like a toy to me and lacks the kind of technical precision I'd expect.

But then again, my favorite processor was Raw Photo Processor, which is very technical. I'm seriously thinking about getting a mac mini or something specificly for that. Not sure how well it handles xtrans

 

[nerwin]

No. I get you. I just really dislike Lightroom. Feels like a toy to me and lacks the kind of technical precision I'd expect.

But then again, my favorite processor was Raw Photo Processor, which is very technical. I'm seriously thinking about getting a mac mini or something specificly for that. Not sure how well it handles xtrans

You have to use whatever works best for you. For me its Lightroom. I know some that will process 500+ photos individually in Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop. Thats something I don't have the patience for, hahaha.

 

[unpopular]

Its also got to work with your budget. That's why I recommend it, but don't actually use it

 

[DarkShadow]

By the time DSLR are Dead so will I,so I don't give a rats behind.

 

[beagle100]

I think one of the biggest advantages that DSLRs have today are the huge selection of lenses, anything you can think of. With mirrorless there is only a small selection and cheap they are not. Sure you can adapt them to mirrorless cameras but I rather not use an adapter.

Newsflash:
lens adapters are inexpensive and some mirrorless lens are cheap !
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[unpopular]

Yep. You can adapt just about anything to m4/3 and a very wide selection to mirrorless APS-C/35mm.

lens options was a pretty substantial reason I went mirrorless.

 

[nerwin]

Guess I might as well switch to mirrorless.

 

[unpopular]

Well. If you do a lot with AF there are a few AF adapters for NEX, otherwise it's full manual.

Though, stop down metering isn't as big of a deal with an EVF.

Another cool thing you have are these "speed boosters" that are designed to maintain the crop equivalent of a 35mm lens by compressing the image circle, this has the added benefit of giving you another stop or so. They're popular with cinematographers. Don't know how they'd perform for stills.

 

[nerwin]

I honestly don't know what I'm going to do. I feel so lost. People are telling me I should switch to mirrorless and others saying I should stick with what I have, but I don't know what I want. I'm happy with my DSLR, it works for me and I know exactly how to use it. But something is missing and I don't know what it is.

I loved the Fuji X100, the orginal one, that camera was awesome and fun to us. Some of my favorite shots came from that camera, it was just the way it handle and felt. It was fun. Liked the fixed 23 /2 lens, I put a red shutter button on it and had custom made leather strap for it and the paint was wearing off, I loved that camera. The high ISO performance wasn't that great, no image stabilization and the video was garbage, but I loved it. I think it made me a better photographer in a way. Maybe because it had a fixed lens? But after selling it, just kind of been feeling I've been going down hill.

I like the RX100 M3 that I have now, but no way does it compare to the X100. Sure the RX100 M3 blows it out of the water in terms of video and picture quality is very simular though X100 has the edge because its APS-C. But for as expensive as the RX100 M3 is, its just chinsy point and shoot that I feel if I squeeze too hard, its going to break. One little bump to that extended lens will surely cause issues.

Don't tempt me to get that old X100 again. Why would I even want the old X100 when the newer X100s is affordable now? Because the X100 had a finepix sensor and not a X-trans sensor and Adobe seems to process the finepix raw files similar to the NEF files I get from my Nikon. If I was to get the X100s, I'd have to process them in a separate program before importing into Lightroom...its just something I don't really want to do.

 

[fmw]

I'm not sure if "simple" is the right word, sensor stabilization is way, way simpler.

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Anyway. Yes. The DSLR is not going to be around forever. I've said it before and I'll say it again: eventually there will be a push for larger sensors and the DSLR platform is awkward for medium format.

Second, mirroless is less expensive and mechanically simpler. Fewer moving parts means warranty service is going to cost less. Inevitable improvements will eventually permit a fast electronic global (or at least functionally global) shutter, and cameras will at this point no longer be mechanical at all.

EVFs have improved significantly over the last few years. a 4k display with a frame rate of 120fps (if taking into account latency) will likely be indistinguishable from an optical viewfinder, and a 6K display most certainly would be. These kinds of numbers are certainly rational expectations considering that VR seems to be a technology that people are at least excited about.

EVFs likewise perform better in low light provided that latency can be corrected, and even without latency corrected, I'd rather have a laggy viewfinder that I can actually see than one I cannot see anything at all, while focus assist is *significantly* more useful than a rangefinder or microprism, imo.

Video can also be viewed naturally from the viewfinder without having to add silly eyecups.

I do not think DSLR is dead, but I think it will be in a few years, my guess is in 10 years professional cameras will not be mechanical, and within 5 years Nikon and Canon will be very much on board.

From my experience, my X-E1 I bought on a whim with all it's flaws is a far superior shooting experience than my Sony A700. The a700 is a solid camera, and really does have a very nice viewfinder, too. But overall, the Xe-1 is just "better".