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This was offered as a critique in another thread, and here it is to take the debate out of that thread:

just snapshots, nothing impressive here.
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We all have to start somewhere! I'm sure you started out taking snapshots
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Originally Posted by pugnacious33 View Post
just snapshots, nothing impressive here.
This is the beginners forum, you know... Maybe share a bit of advice or something that would help, instead of swooping in, passing judgement and swooping back out?
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Keep in mind we're in beginner's forum here, so go easy...
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I am going easy! Was I harsh? If so, I didn't mean to be. I am a beginner, too, and I could have easily snapped a shot of someone with dirty nails (in fact I HAVE). It still drives me crazy.
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We all have to start somewhere! I'm sure you started out taking snapshots
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No reason for the attitude, my honesty is meant to be constructive. All the advice that has been given about being more presentable in the picture is good. But the pictures are overexposed and not sharp at all, which is what i'd expect from a point and shoot camera. Cloning out blemishes and playing with the pics in photoshop will be pointless, IMO. The best advice here would be to read up on the basics of photography and learn to use the camera. Having good ideas about composition is great, but you have to start with the technical stuff first. Sorry if I was too harsh.
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We all have to start somewhere! I'm sure you started out taking snapshots
True. But I started with a fully manual camera, a few lenses and several books. Where anyone who is serious about the craft should start.
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No problem. That's more like what I think should be given here. Just telling someone that their pictures are boring or lacking, without giving any sort of explanation as to why, doesn't really do anything except discourage them, imho.
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Sorry, dude, but uh, you don't get to dictate where people should start with an art form.
It isn't science. There isn't a proven theory as to what is better and what isn't. Nothing is carved in stone. There are, and can be, suggestions or advice as to what has worked best for others, but nothing is proven.

People start where they want to, and take pictures of what they want to.
People evolve with their art, and most start out taking snapshots. No one was born a fabulous photographer. Even "fabulous" is subjective.
Most of us are born with eyes, and perspectives develop over time.

If you were a nice person, you'd give advice and be gentler to a newcomer. And you wouldn't come here with some pretentious "be all end all" attitude.

"just snapshots, nothing impressive here"
Ouch. What a way to knock down a beginner, or at the very least, be absolutely not helpful.
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Geez, chill out. It is my opinion that if a person wants to learn photography and become really good at it, they should be shooting with an slr so they can understand the basic concepts of aperture, shutter speed, and depth of field, things you're not going to fully learn with a point and shoot. That's all i'm saying, it is meant as helpful advice. Those who shoot with a point and shoot will get snapshots. Why limit yourself. If the original poster feels that she has the ability to be a good photographer, and she obviously does because she is making an effort and posting pictures here for c&c, then why should she limit herself. The "art" of photography can't "evolve", as you say, unless the artist masters the "craft". In photography, the "art" and "craft" aspects go hand in hand. Again, all this is meant to be helpful. Sorry it if comes off arrogant.
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Carry on.
 
What are we supposed to be debating?
 
Is this supposed to be like a gladiator fight or something? :lol:
 
yeah, i guess the debate is supposed to continue here...

After reading it my thought is...

Meh, the same argumement as always, nothing really special, let it die.
 
why exactly are we quoting from another thread?....and what are we debating?

oh yeah and

IBTL
 
Bad form to call out a member by name in the thread about another thread, much less the title of your new thread.

Carry on? No, move on. There are much better topics to discuss.


I had a BBQ sandwich for lunch.
 
Gyro, Grecian potatos, greek salad, and some baklava for me today.:thumbup:
 
Gyro, Grecian potatos, greek salad, and some baklava for me today.:thumbup:
Was there a formula in those potatos? It's as easy as 1-2-3. (Some may get the reference)


You guys sock....... errr, I mean rock.
 
lucky bastahd.
i had a boring turkey wheat wrap.
i woulda killed for baklava
 
I had a pretty good Subway Italian BMT. a little dry, but had parmesan which was really good :)
 

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