The TPF Inner Circle - Google+

[Sammie_Lou]

Have you been on Facebook lately?? They now have "groups", which function pretty much the same way as Google "circles".

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

I think the even bigger problem is that I assumed that the people that the thread was intended for, would know who they were.

lol! So you expect the good, humble people who are always helpful, and never injecting chaos... to have egos large enough to "know" that they are they ones you are referring to? Seems backwards to me!

Good point.

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

Have you been on Facebook lately?? They now have "groups", which function pretty much the same way as Google "circles".

Yes, they function similar, and they only did it when they started to fear market share. However, they are not the same. Facebook's entire interface is archaic and not very user-friendly as it has always been. Don't get me wrong, I use facebook. I just think they missed the boat on this and feel that they have some things they could work on.

 

[Derrel]

Goonies, it seems that the wording and phrasing and title of your original post have earned you triple,double-secret probation!!!!!!!!!!!

"No good deed goes unpunished."

 

[o hey tyler]

Have you been on Facebook lately?? They now have "groups", which function pretty much the same way as Google "circles".

 

[fjrabon]

Your biggest issue is the thread title. You're a photographer, you should understand that the first glance someone gives something leaves the strongest impression. You named this 'inner circle', with all its elitist connotations. People aren't getting past that. No matter how much you try to explain it they're not. It's like having to explain a photograph to someone, they've already made up their mind 90% at first glance, it's how people work.

I'm not saying your idea is bad or good. I'm saying this is why you're getting all the crap you're getting. because the initial impression is elitist, and you get to pick the elite. I understand that's not what you intended, but this is just like when a photographer doesn't intend for his viewers to see the photo the way they do. The photographer can blame the viewers for not seeing his vision, or he can blame himself for not executing what he wanted to get across.

That was my biggest issue with this! The way the initial post was phrased was very elitist... and I found that offensive (whether I was invited or not!).

I am calling it the Inner Circle because I am only willing to add reputable and trustworthy posters who have ample postings and which I have interacted with before. In other words, people who have earned a spot in the Inner Circle.

Oh woe to all the unwashed masses that won't be included in this photographic secret society!

Sounds like some deep-rooted adequacy issues ( meant as a joke by the way, not maliciously ). Inner Circle is a long used term referring to ones closest friends and confidants. I think that this is a very fitting description of what was trying to be achieved. ( Also the reason why google even USES circles as the descriptive device for their groups ) We can argue about this all day long, but the fact of the matter is, you know as well I do, the most active posters on this forum. Its not some mystery. In fact, a few of the naysayers that have posted here would fit the bill. The main reason for having to have a knowledge of someone, as stated, was for security reasons. It also acts as a bit of a cut-off so that we are not simply taking the entire list of members of this forum and starting a massive circle with all of the excess fat that shows up on these forums in the form of useless, negetive and downright malicious posts. This has nothing to do with whether someone is a beginner or not a beginner. Unfortunately, there is no other way for me, or the other members of the circle to guage you as a person unless we go off of historical experience on the TPF. Thats just the blatant reality of it. We can argue about people being offended or having their feelings hurt or whatever, but its really not that difficult to see this in a realistic manner.

I understand your reasons, I'm just explaining to you why people are taking it the way they are. Inner circle sounds like you picking your cool friends. I understand that's not how you intended it. But that's why you're getting the reaction you are. Again, you can blame people for taking it the wrong way, or you can look at the way you initially worded it.

I personally couldn't care less about the group one way or the other, I don't use G+. But I did kind of think it was weird for you to get so defensive about it, when people interpreting the group the way they did was at least partially, if not entirely, due to the way you phrased it, where you put it, etc. The second I saw the way you titled the thread I thought to myself "well that's going to start a crapstorm, LOL." This was a completely predictable reaction.

 

[c.cloudwalker]

Why do you think that?

Just my way of talking, nothing personal. Although I wish people would stop "liking" me for saying stuff like that

But you do kind of answer yourself next. OUR circle is right here. Why do we need a circle outside this circle?

It won't be any better.

As for the power of social media, please explain. No one has yet been able to make me see the light of day in that regard. Aside from making people lonelier, I don't get it.

 

[Derrel]

As c.cloudwalker wrote: Why do we need a circle outside this circle? It won't be any better.

Diz-actly!

 

[dots]

You could add Steve.

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

But I did kind of think it was weird for you to get so defensive about it, when people interpreting the group the way they did was at least partially, if not entirely, due to the way you phrased it, where you put it, etc.

I have admitted that it could have been worded different in hindsight had I realized people would misunderstand. I guess I gave everyone too much credit . I am not getting defensive, just clarifying my intentions. If everyone is going to misconstrue what was meant, then I am going to clarify for the rest of the people that may read this thread. What is wierd about that?

 

[GeorgieGirl]

My knee jerk reaction to this is what a pile of crap. I have been on so many boards where there are always some people who feel they must take on the role of King of the Hill and they need to so the masses are special and happy and salvation can take place.

It cracks me up how many do this and how many drink the kool aid as a result.

 

[dots]

yea

My knee jerk reaction to this is what a pile of crap. I have been on so many boards where there are always some people who feel they must take on the role of King of the Hill and they need to so the masses are special and happy and salvation can take place.

It cracks me up how many do this and how many drink the kool aid as a result.

 

[dots]

I found an amazing social media tool, in the late 1990s. E-mail.

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

My knee jerk reaction to this is what a pile of crap. I have been on so many boards where there are always some people who feel they must take on the role of King of the Hill and they need to so the masses are special and happy and salvation can take place.

It cracks me up how many do this and how many drink the kool aid as a result.

What koolaid have you been drinking? King of the Hill? Salvation? Get over dramatic much? It cracks me up at how many people have wasted their time on this thread. If nothing else this has been a very nice case study in what is wrong with this forum.

 

[Derrel]

In this thread: People expressing negativity over something they are not being forced (by any means) to join rather than actually allowing people that do want to join communicate about joining.

Kind of self fulfills what Goonies was saying. By having a group of thoughtful, contributing members, we'd avoid all sorts of bull**** like this.

"If wishes and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all be rich!!!"

"Oh, Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore!"

"Hi, my name is Polly. Polly Anna."

"Gosh, the world is so,so full of mean people. It hurts my widdwl feeeeewings."

"Mr. Sulu, engage bullchit deflectors! Increase power to maximum bullchit deflection."