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Rancor

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I found someone selling a new in box, 30 days old, Canon Rebel T3i. He is selling it because he needs money in a hurry. The asking price is $495 obo, which to me sounds sort of "fell off the back of a truck" but what do I care if its in perfect working order. I don't have that right now, nor do I, at the moment, need 2 cameras, so this is what I offered:

My 5 month old, in mint condition, Rebel XS in box with all it came with
&
$250

Now math wise thats about $750 worth compared to the $500 he asked, but I'm still saving $250 on the retail price of the T3i which is $1000

Do you think this is a good trade?
 
A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved:

  • The person received or concealed or stored or disposed of items of stolen property.
  • The items were moving as, or constituted a part of, interstate commerce.
  • The items had a value in excess of $5,000.
  • The person acted knowingly and willfully.
Plausible Deniability my friend. I have no reason to believe they are actually stolen goods, I was simply making a joke. The person said the item was purchased from best buy 30 days ago and cannot be returned because of there two week return policy. Who am I to call him a liar. :)
 
If it is on CL it is a scam. He is probably in England for a "business" trip right now.
 
Well obviously if that's the case then I would have nothing to do with it. All of my CL purchases are done in person, and I always bring a friend. I'm a Smart Fella, not a Fart Smella.
 
Ask him for a signed receipt with a copy of his drivers license.

If he says no, walk.
 
See how far plausible deniability gets you in court.

The difficulty with situations involving the purchase of items over the internet or even through the classified section of a local newspaper is that one has to prove they did not know the item was stolen.

In fact, the police assume a buyer should know when they are buying stolen property because there are often suspicious circumstances surrounding the sale (i.e., the seller only accepts money orders, the payment address is different from the location address or the price seems too good to be true).
 
See how far plausible deniability gets you in court.

The difficulty with situations involving the purchase of items over the internet or even through the classified section of a local newspaper is that one has to prove they did not know the item was stolen.

In fact, the police assume a buyer should know when they are buying stolen property because there are often suspicious circumstances surrounding the sale (i.e., the seller only accepts money orders, the payment address is different from the location address or the price seems too good to be true).

It could actually get him pretty far, assuming he has a good lawyer. Plausible Deniability seems to be a legal gray area. ;)
 
See how far plausible deniability gets you in court.


In fact, the police assume a buyer should know when they are buying stolen property because there are often suspicious circumstances surrounding the sale (i.e., the seller only accepts money orders, the payment address is different from the location address or the price seems too good to be true).

Or you post something along the lines of "It seems like it may have fallen off of a truck" on a public intratubes forum in regards to an upcoming purchase.

You know, the cops can read this too.

Just sayin'.
 
If they want to read this, they can then read the part about that being a joke. I am not a criminal expert nor a behavioral specialist. I cannot tell if a person is lying. I believe that people are honest and truthful, and that this person has simply fallen upon hard time. To question his honesty would be Un-American.

*Thats me talking up the jury*
 
Hurray for devolving a thread into a discussion on legalities. :)
 
Hurray for devolving a thread into a discussion on legalities. :)

Dude, if you want to get the camera, do it. (Assuming the seller is legitimate.) $550 is not an "unreasonable" price for someone to sell a camera at if they are in financial dire straits.

Just make sure it's in working order, and bring a memory card, both your lenses, and take a few photos with each lens on. (Also try the video mode as well)

Check the body for external damage, make sure the pop up flash functions, etc.
 

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