Walgreens says my 35mm FUJI 200 was UPSIDE down and blank inside the roll....

[wdh1974]

My camera was from KEH the olympus om1 it looks 99% brand new, same goes for the lens, its pretty much flawless and fires off fine.

She showed me the film, it was that brown color film is BUT, it was COMPLETLY clear, i mean CLEAN see through CLEAR lol, and she said it was upside down in the roll.

The only thing i can think of is i left the camera in my car at college, and it was like 12 degrees inside the car, would the totally erase the film and remove all emulsion?

So i break open a roll from the same box, its black side up, dull brownish side on the bottom, that roll seems fine.

Kinda funny, my first ever 35mm is black lol, doesnt bother me, not discouraged at all.

And the charge 11.99 to develop 35mm in 1 hour lol, i will run a successful test roll then im buying my own dev kit!

 

[Robin Usagani]

I dont understand how that is possible. I havent done many films buy i feel like the roll will only go one way.

 

[timor]

Another "magic" is going on. What do you mean the film was completely clear ? Do you have this film in your possession ? Can you check if there are any markings, where the perforation is ? Name of the film, some numbers, bar codes etc ? If there is nothing probably Walgreens screwed up development. If there are this markings, we should look at the camera. Temperature cannot remove emulsion from the film. We store film in deep freeze to preserve it, high temperature may damage emulsion but not remove it.

"She showed me the film, it was that brown color film is BUT, it was COMPLETLY clear, i mean CLEAN see through CLEAR lol, and she said it was upside down in the roll." --- VERY INTERESTING !

 

[wdh1974]

No, i held it and looked at it, buty was like looking through brown glass, there was numbers along the sides as would be expected, but the portion where you would have an image was clean like glass. I find it odd too, she said she put it in the machine and went to lunch, im assuming she screwed up.

Regardless, ill give it one more shot just to make sure the light meter is accurate and everything is working, after that its home development, and a v600 lol...

 

[Josh66]

So i break open a roll from the same box, its black side up, dull brownish side on the bottom, that roll seems fine.

Well it's not fine now!


Cold weather would actually be good for film. It being upside down would only make it redscaled.

Two things could have happened.
1 - They messed up developing it.
2 - You never actually would it onto the spool, and you "shot" a whole roll without ever advancing the film - then wound it back up and developed an unexposed roll.


If it were exposed to light (like that roll you opened up), the whole roll would be black, not clear.

 

[wdh1974]

well when i re-wound the film i felt resistance for a while then it felt like it "broke free" and wound smooth with no resistance, im sure i seated it properly

there were numbers yes, but even unexposed wouldn't there be something on the film it was truly clear like glass.

 

[Josh66]

No, i held it and looked at it, buty was like looking through brown glass, there was numbers along the sides as would be expected, but the portion where you would have an image was clean like glass. I find it odd too, she said she put it in the machine and went to lunch, im assuming she screwed up.

Regardless, ill give it one more shot just to make sure the light meter is accurate and everything is working, after that its home development, and a v600 lol...

Since the edge markings are there, I think the most likely thing is that you had an unexposed roll developed.

Either it never got onto the spool in the camera, or the camera might be broken.

Are you sure there's nothing wrong with the camera? If it's empty, open the back and fire the shutter a few times at different speeds - is it working?

 

[wdh1974]

yeah it fires at various speeds and the light meter is reading along the same lines as a phone app light meter.

 

[vimwiz]

Um, are you sure you advanced it right?

First roll I ever shot was blank as i didnt properly align the leader when loading the film, so it didnt actually advance (though the counter went up and it rewound as expected, though very quickly, only wondered why it had been so quiet shooting 36 wated photos later...)

 

[Josh66]

Are you sure the film is advancing? KEH is pretty good about grading camera, so if they say it works, I'd tend to trust them.


My bet is that you didn't get it hooked far enough into the take-up spool, and it just sat there in the same place the whole time you were taking pictures. Next time, advance it a few frames and make sure the spool is holding it tight before closing the cover.


That's pretty much the only thing I can think of that it could be. The film was never exposed to light, since it was clear. If they put it in the Blix first, that would ruin it too, but I don't think you'd be able to see the edge markings, since they would have never been developed if that is what happened.


Blank film with normal looking edge markings doesn't leave many options other than the film having never been exposed.

 

[wdh1974]

Im a total noob so anything is possible, but i do remember the film locking into the grooves and i gave the lever a little turn to make sure its locked in, unless it popped off inside.

Ill take the blame for this one lol, gonna load another and MAKE SURE its in

 

[Josh66]

I don't think the lab is at fault here - BUT, since they blamed it on "the film being upside down", they obviously don't know what they're talking about - so you'll probably want to find a new lab anyway.

 

[vimwiz]

That's pretty much the only thing I can think of that it could be. The film was never exposed to light, since it was clear. If they put it in the Blix first, that would ruin it too, but I don't think you'd be able to see the edge markings, since they would have never been developed if that is what happened. Blank film with normal looking edge markings doesn't leave many options other than the film having never been exposed.

Yep, I aree about the advance. The film being upside down is rubbish and i dont believe it, but if they messed up it would usually be totally clear or you wouldnt see the writing, thats my experience when ive screwed up (i.e. used B&W process for C41 etc...)

What film was it? Colour?

 

[dxqcanada]

Yes, if they really goofed on the processing of the film the number/lettering on the sides of the film would be affected. If they looked clear and exposed then the frames were not exposed.

When first loading and winding the film did you notice the rewind knob moving ?
When rewinding you should have felt resistance for a while before it came loose.
The shutter is opening/closing ? You can see light during the exposure when you trip the shutter (while looking through the open back) ?

 

[Rick58]

sacrifice a roll and advance it to the end with the back open