Want to get second shooter jobs-how do I do that ?

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  1. goodguy

    goodguy Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    First I live in Toronto Canada.

    I have been upgrading my equipment and my skills in the past few years.
    I dont want to run and look for paying jobs just yet, I want to get a bit more experience as a second shooter in weddings.
    I have designed a site that shows my pictures

    My Site

    I put few ads on kijiji asking for volunteer job as a second shooter but no reply.
    I know I have everything it takes to do this but yet I cant find anyone that will take a guy with all the equipment and good skills for free.

    Any suggestion or thoughts will be welcome :)


     
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    Braineack Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    sign up a secondshooters.com?
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    You need to get out there and sell yourself. If you don't already have one, get a proper portfolio printed up, with 8-12 of your BEST images as well as a 'Z' sheet with three of your best and your contact information, shine your shoes, put on your tie and put an extra dab of Bryl-Kreem in your hair and start knocking on doors. As, in: Get out there and actually knock on doors, talk to people. If you can't actually talk to someone who can make a decision, leave a 'Z' sheet and a card, ask for one of their cards and call back in a week or two.This takes a lot of time and shoe leather, but an ad on Kijijijjijijijijijiiiiiii will likely get you exactly nowhere because you're one of ten thousand fish in the same pond.
     
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    goodguy Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I am not looking for a paid job, I am looking for a photographer to work with for free!
    My coin is experience and confidence.
    My advanatge is that I have a career I love so photography is something I enjoy and want as a side income but not as a full time career.
    I need to find somebody that will give me the chance to get better.
     
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    goodguy Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Never heard of this site, will check it, thanks for the link! :)
     
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    Vtec44 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Facebook groups, especially local ones. That's where I go when I need a second shooter while my regular second shooter is unavailable. You'd probably start out as an assistant.
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    You and a thousand others! I realize you're looking for an intern position, and if you want one with a GOOD photographer, you're going to have to compete for it. This will take every bit as much work as getting a paid job in another sector.
     
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    goodguy Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Looks like I have a long road ahead of me.
     
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    goodguy Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Good idea, went and signed up to 2 Toronto Photographic group, hope they will accept me.
     
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    gsgary Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    A quote from one of my favourite photographers, " I wish people would get more serious about photography and treat it as a hobby"
     
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    Huh...that sounds kind of familiar to me...
     
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    Dillard No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Second shooting is all about networking. Meet and get to know local photographers that may be in need of assistance, post in community Facebook groups with current examples of your work, and quite frankly, don't be afraid to ask.

    I posted in a local group offering free second shooting service because its something that I wanted to do. I wasn't interested in the money, and quite frankly didn't want the stress of botching someones big day. I wanted to shoot the wedding, be able to use my creativity, and step outside of my comfort zone with a new subject and environment. Within an hour after posting, I had at least 4 photographers message me. There are many people out there (now granted, they are lower end wedding photographers most likely), that don't price themselves in a range that allows them to fork out $200 of their profit for a second shooter, and would love for someone to come help out free of charge.

    Now is that a permanent gig? Of course not. But it gives you wedding work that you can now incorporate into your portfolio for future networking. Not many photographers like paying someone to second shoot that have absolutely no wedding experience. It's kind of like being a teen and trying to get a credit card. You have to have credit to qualify for a credit card, but as a teen, its difficult to get credit without a credit card.
     
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