What I did in Math today

[tevo]

WTF is going on here?

Apparently because I was sitting at my desk drawing on myself after I did what I could on a test on a subject I have always struggled with, I am bound to fail. And with that being said, I also know nothing about day to day life - and what applies to it.


Its okay though, I always liked picking up trash

 

[Kerbouchard]

Exactly! I am no Einstein, but really the things I learn in school on a day to day basis dont generally apply to my day to day life, its more of a "do this so you can go to college" type of thing.

For what it's worth, you have no idea what applies to your day to day life. You are what, 16?

For the record, I did what I could on my test, and after giving up all hope of continuing, I crafted this beautiful work of art. I didnt just ditch class to draw on my hand, you make me sound like some sort of dime-store hood.

And besides math and physics I have all A's and B's.. but its okay, judge me how you wish

You aren't interviewing with me, I'm not offering you a job, and you aren't looking for one so I wouldn't exactly say I am judging you. I am just giving you my perception. Perhaps, I am completely wrong about you. Who knows? For what it's worth, I've been wrong about people in the past. Some I blew off and went and did great things. Some I hired and had to get rid of. My opinion is not the be all end all.

As far as the math aspect, I really would recommend that link. Honestly, I think that organization could change the way education is presented in this country. I asked my wife about it a few minutes ago(she teaches Chemistry and Biology), and she said she uses it in her classroom.

Here I was, thinking I found something new, but I guess it's pretty big. From what I have seen of the videos, it should be.

Okay. You are all right. Im a bound failure who doesnt know jack **** about my day to day life. I apparently ditch class to get people to draw on me, and will grow up to be nothing more than a city worker at best. My options: 1. Curl up in a ball and die




There's your victory, people. I'm sorry I posted in the first place

See, if you would have just wrote my name on your hand, too, this would have never happened.

But seriously, one thing I take a bit of offense to in your previous posts, there is nothing wrong with a guy who makes a living picking up trash, digging ditches, or whatever other job a lot of us would turn our noses at. Most put in an honest days work for an honest days pay. Very respectable.

As far as my previous comments, I didn't mean to belittle you or imply that you won't accomplish anything.

Here is the story, when I was 16/17/however old you are, I thought I knew it all. I had read tens of thousands of books, aced the SAT's, and could sleep through class and still wreck the curve. I read the text books the first week I got them and then blew off the rest of the classwork. I aced the tests and didn't bother with the homework. Didn't need to. Ended up with B's to mid A's. Parents didn't make enough to send me to college and I slacked off enough to not bother to apply for any scholarships. Joined the military instead, ran nuclear reactors for the Navy, and now make a comfortable living.

All I am saying is, if I was stuck right now with everything 'I knew' in highschool I would be a failure. Instead, I grew up a bit, learned a lot, and can look back to when I was just a snot nosed kid who thought he knew it all with good humor.

On that note, you have it within your grasp to grab a top-notch education and a very bright future. Even if there are a few barriers in the way and even if you have to work a bit harder than your piers, it's not something you should just blow off because you don't think it's important. Sometimes things turn out to be important even though you thought they were insignificant. It happens.

Perhaps, you are right. Maybe you are the one highschooler who knows exactly what he needs to learn, can ignore the rest of it, and become successful. I wish you the best. Just giving you my perspective from somebody who has been there.

IMO, the economy is getting worse, I don't think it will get better in the next few years, and the more options and skills you have available to you, the better off you are.

Just my .02

 

[Robin Usagani]

A silly post turned into a life lesson thread. Got to love TPF. We got Dr. Phil in da houz.

 

[cgipson1]

I work with a lot of liberal arts types.. that can't do math if they try, and they do pull in decent paychecks (Some make more than I do). We all have different talents.. and have different things that motivate us.

I dropped out of high school my sophomore year... because it was a waste of time. The curriculum was ridiculous.... and boring as hell. I could skip class all semester... and still go in and pass the tests! (of course, they would still flunk me.. not because I didn't have the knowledge, but because I didn't play their stupid games.) Of course, that was in little West Texas town that cared more about football than education.. so hopefully Tevo has access to better classes than I did. I am where I am, due to aptitude and motivation... no formal schooling in Computer Science or related fields, but I am a relatively successful systems engineer, have owned a successful consulting business, and really enjoy what I do. I have also had to teach people with BS and Master degrees how to do their jobs.. so I don't really have a lot of respect for that either.. or the ego's that sometimes come with it (the attitude is often "You can't teach me anything.. you don't even have a degree!). Whatever!

Tevo can possibly do the same thing.. in the areas he feels drawn to. Not everybody needs to know how to use a slipstick, or has to know calculus to make a good living.

TEVO: I do recommend learning everything you can, about everything you can.... but if there are some things you don't get (after a really honest try), then do the best you can.... and ignore the detractors. (But do the BEST you can.. no slacker attitudes!)

EDIT... Kerbouchard.. funny, I aced the SATs also (yea.. sophomore year) .. even had a scholarship offer (but turned it down out of stupid pride.. one thing I have always regretted!

 

[tevo]

For what it's worth, you have no idea what applies to your day to day life. You are what, 16?


You aren't interviewing with me, I'm not offering you a job, and you aren't looking for one so I wouldn't exactly say I am judging you. I am just giving you my perception. Perhaps, I am completely wrong about you. Who knows? For what it's worth, I've been wrong about people in the past. Some I blew off and went and did great things. Some I hired and had to get rid of. My opinion is not the be all end all.

As far as the math aspect, I really would recommend that link. Honestly, I think that organization could change the way education is presented in this country. I asked my wife about it a few minutes ago(she teaches Chemistry and Biology), and she said she uses it in her classroom.

Here I was, thinking I found something new, but I guess it's pretty big. From what I have seen of the videos, it should be.

Okay. You are all right. Im a bound failure who doesnt know jack **** about my day to day life. I apparently ditch class to get people to draw on me, and will grow up to be nothing more than a city worker at best. My options: 1. Curl up in a ball and die




There's your victory, people. I'm sorry I posted in the first place

See, if you would have just wrote my name on your hand, too, this would have never happened.

But seriously, one thing I take a bit of offense to in your previous posts, there is nothing wrong with a guy who makes a living picking up trash, digging ditches, or whatever other job most of us would turn out heads at. Most put in an honest days work for an honest days pay. Very respectable.

As far as my previous comments, I didn't mean to belittle you or imply that you won't accomplish anything.

Here is the story, when I was 16/17/however old you are, I thought I knew it all. I had read tens of thousands of books, aced the SAT's, and could sleep through class and still wreck the curve. I read the text books the first week I got them and then blew off the rest of the classwork. I aced the tests and didn't bother with the homework. Didn't need to. Ended up with B's to mid A's. Parents didn't make enough to send me to college and I slacked off enough to not bother to apply for any scholarships. Joined the military instead, ran nuclear reactors for the Navy, and now make a comfortable living.

All I am saying is, if I was stuck right now with everything 'I knew' in highschool I would be a failure. Instead, I grew up a bit, learned a lot, and can look back to when I was just a snot nosed kid who thought he knew it all with good humor.

On that note, you have it within your grasp to grab a top-notch education and a very bright future. Even if there are a few barriers in the way and even if you have to work a bit harder than your piers, it's not something you should just blow off because you don't think it's important. Sometimes things turn out to be important even though you thought they were insignificant. It happens.

Perhaps, you are right. Maybe you are the one highschooler who knows exactly what he needs to learn, can ignore the rest of it, and become successful. I wish you the best. Just giving you my perspective from somebody who has been there.

I am not being offensive, how gsgary phrased it made it seem like I will amount to nothing more than someone who is forced to pick up trash for a living. And I by no means think I know it all. I am , however, aware of my shortcomings. And I have, contrary to popular belief, tried to strengthen myself in those areas, without success. At this point in the game, I try to maintain a C in the classes that I struggle in, which requires very little effort. ANd this is because even if I were to put in extra effort, I would probably only amount to a C. That was my experience my first 2 years of high school. I don't know exactly what I need to learn but I have a pretty good idea from talking to people who are professionally in the field I am pursuing, and who have ALSO been there - in more ideal circumstances than me.


Next time I will write your name on my hand. In color.

 

[Kerbouchard]

Okay. You are all right. Im a bound failure who doesnt know jack **** about my day to day life. I apparently ditch class to get people to draw on me, and will grow up to be nothing more than a city worker at best. My options: 1. Curl up in a ball and die




There's your victory, people. I'm sorry I posted in the first place

See, if you would have just wrote my name on your hand, too, this would have never happened.

But seriously, one thing I take a bit of offense to in your previous posts, there is nothing wrong with a guy who makes a living picking up trash, digging ditches, or whatever other job most of us would turn out heads at. Most put in an honest days work for an honest days pay. Very respectable.

As far as my previous comments, I didn't mean to belittle you or imply that you won't accomplish anything.

Here is the story, when I was 16/17/however old you are, I thought I knew it all. I had read tens of thousands of books, aced the SAT's, and could sleep through class and still wreck the curve. I read the text books the first week I got them and then blew off the rest of the classwork. I aced the tests and didn't bother with the homework. Didn't need to. Ended up with B's to mid A's. Parents didn't make enough to send me to college and I slacked off enough to not bother to apply for any scholarships. Joined the military instead, ran nuclear reactors for the Navy, and now make a comfortable living.

All I am saying is, if I was stuck right now with everything 'I knew' in highschool I would be a failure. Instead, I grew up a bit, learned a lot, and can look back to when I was just a snot nosed kid who thought he knew it all with good humor.

On that note, you have it within your grasp to grab a top-notch education and a very bright future. Even if there are a few barriers in the way and even if you have to work a bit harder than your piers, it's not something you should just blow off because you don't think it's important. Sometimes things turn out to be important even though you thought they were insignificant. It happens.

Perhaps, you are right. Maybe you are the one highschooler who knows exactly what he needs to learn, can ignore the rest of it, and become successful. I wish you the best. Just giving you my perspective from somebody who has been there.

I am not being offensive, how gsgary phrased it made it seem like I will amount to nothing more than someone who is forced to pick up trash for a living. And I by no means think I know it all. I am , however, aware of my shortcomings. And I have, contrary to popular belief, tried to strengthen myself in those areas, without success. At this point in the game, I try to maintain a C in the classes that I struggle in, which requires very little effort. ANd this is because even if I were to put in extra effort, I would probably only amount to a C. That was my experience my first 2 years of high school. I don't know exactly what I need to learn but I have a pretty good idea from talking to people who are professionally in the field I am pursuing, and who have ALSO been there - in more ideal circumstances than me.


Next time I will write your name on my hand. In color.

All kidding aside, hope you check out that link to the Khan Academy. The way they are teaching some of these subjects is pretty revolutionary. Might even work for you.

Best of luck to you.

Regards,
George

 

[tevo]

I work with a lot of liberal arts types.. that can't do math if they try, and they do pull in decent paychecks (Some make more than I do). We all have different talents.. and have different things that motivate us.

I dropped out of high school my sophomore year... because it was a waste of time. The curriculum was ridiculous.... and boring as hell. I could skip class all semester... and still go in and pass the tests! (of course, they would still flunk me.. not because I didn't have the knowledge, but because I didn't play their stupid games.) Of course, that was in little West Texas town that cared more about football than education.. so hopefully Tevo has access to better classes than I did. I am where I am, due to aptitude and motivation... no formal schooling in Computer Science or related fields, but I am a relatively successful systems engineer, have owned a successful consulting business, and really enjoy what I do. I have also had to teach people with BS and Master degrees how to do their jobs.. so I don't really have a lot of respect for that either.. or the ego's that sometimes come with it (the attitude is often "You can't teach me anything.. you don't even have a degree!). Whatever!

Tevo can possibly do the same thing.. in the areas he feels drawn to. Not everybody needs to know how to use a slipstick, or has to know calculus to make a good living.

TEVO: I do recommend learning everything you can, about everything you can.... but if there are some things you don't get (after a really honest try), then do the best you can.... and ignore the detractors. (But do the BEST you can.. no slacker attitudes!)

EDIT... Kerbouchard.. funny, I aced the SATs also (yea.. sophomore year) .. even had a scholarship offer (but turned it down out of stupid pride.. one thing I have always regretted!

I am told by many people that "I know a lot about a lot of things." Believe it or not, I can confidently say I know how to do a lot of **** - most of it very well.

 

[cgipson1]

I am told by many people that "I know a lot about a lot of things." Believe it or not, I can confidently say I know how to do a lot of **** - most of it very well.

Heck bruddah.. you got's a better vocabulary, and you writes better... den many of them people on dis here forum.... I find that indicative of something! Maybe you just gonna be a well spoken garbageman.. hey? lol! <wink>!

 

[tevo]

I am told by many people that "I know a lot about a lot of things." Believe it or not, I can confidently say I know how to do a lot of **** - most of it very well.

Heck bruddah.. you got's a better vocabulary, and you writes better... den many of them people on dis here forum.... I find that indicative of something! Maybe you just gonna be a well spoken garbageman.. hey? lol! <wink>!

Martin Scorcese will make a movie about it.

The Sequel to Taxi Driver, Garbage Man

 

[tevo]

A silly post turned into a life lesson thread. Got to love TPF. We got Dr. Phil in da houz.

Gotta love the internets.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

uh...how did Einstein do in school?

Just sayin'

Smart to study hard and cover all bases but strong will and determination will always put you where you need to be.

School is fine for those that learn from it but isn't a requirement to be smart. Contrary, some people are too smart for school.

Word!


I graduated high school with a 1.8


High School was bull ****.

 

[cgipson1]

uh...how did Einstein do in school?

Just sayin'

Smart to study hard and cover all bases but strong will and determination will always put you where you need to be.

School is fine for those that learn from it but isn't a requirement to be smart. Contrary, some people are too smart for school.

Word!


I graduated high school with a 1.8


High School was bull ****.

+1, Bitter! Totally!

 

[Kerbouchard]

uh...how did Einstein do in school?

Just sayin'

Smart to study hard and cover all bases but strong will and determination will always put you where you need to be.

School is fine for those that learn from it but isn't a requirement to be smart. Contrary, some people are too smart for school.

Word!


I graduated high school with a 1.8


High School was bull ****.

How the heck did you graduate highschool with a 1.8? They just got tired of seeing you around and decided to give you a diploma to get you to leave?

 

[tevo]

uh...how did Einstein do in school?

Just sayin'

Smart to study hard and cover all bases but strong will and determination will always put you where you need to be.

School is fine for those that learn from it but isn't a requirement to be smart. Contrary, some people are too smart for school.

Word!


I graduated high school with a 1.8


High School was bull ****.

Bitter I love you LOL

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

People should be careful how they judge.

Yes, I graduated with a 1.8.
I nearly didn't because they forgot my 1/2 credit of algebra from summer school. They claimed I was a half credit short.
It combined nicely with my 1/2 credit from marine biology.

I was also held back in 7th grade.

After graduating, a friend and I took the MENSA test on a whim. I missed getting in by 2 percentage points.

Just because I did poorly in school, is meaningless, quite frankly. High school was Mickey mouse bull ****.


My sister graduated with a 4.0, got scholarships to college (I got in on probation), she has a business degree and accounting.
I make more than double what she does.

Public school sucks. It doesn't work for everyone. I wasn't in a poor school district either.
Just because some one is bad with math, doesn't mean they can't be successful.

Lecture Tevo all you want.

Tevo, find what you love to do and totally immerse yourself in it, and you will be successful.
I have found that people who don't like math, tend not to want to be rocket scientists.