What is with all these beginners with $1000+ cameras?

[adamwilliamking]

Whats worse, them buying the camera that they didn't NEED but WILL grow with.

Or you complaining about it on TPF?

Literally, who cares. They found something that they want to be passionate about and they spent all their money on it. Thats what life is man. If you are really that pissed off than go by a D90 and show up D3 users. At least thats what I do.

 

[adamwilliamking]

The average newbie will not need to shoot 12MP pictures. The average newbie will not take any better pictures with a 1200 dollar lens.

Incorrect my friend, a better lens is really the ONLY thing that has an effect on IQ.

PS: **** I had no idea this thread was so old.

 

[dxqcanada]

It's all relative ...

I saved up $250.00 to purchase my first camera, in 1985. I was making about $8000.00/year.
Now lets say the current average wage is about 4 times that ... so 4x $250.00 = $1000.00

 

[DScience]

It's all relative ...

I saved up $250.00 to purchase my first camera, in 1985. I was making about $8000.00/year.
Now lets say the current average wage is about 4 times that ... so 4x $250.00 = $1000.00

The average wage is definitely not $32,000 a year lol

 

[dxqcanada]

US avg wage index

 

[mrodgers]

If you have decided flying an airplane is the hobby for you........

Nah, only cost me $109 compared to my superzoom at $199. Oh, you meant flying a real airplane, not an RC plane....

 

[farmerj]

It's all relative ...

I saved up $250.00 to purchase my first camera, in 1985. I was making about $8000.00/year.
Now lets say the current average wage is about 4 times that ... so 4x $250.00 = $1000.00

The average wage is definitely not $32,000 a year lol

U.S. Average Salary Income - Job Comparison

No it's not. It's closer to $42,000.
Disposable income is $32,000 according to that.

 

[usayit]

Its lower... once you account cost of living and inflation.

But you are right... it is all relative. In some places, just having a consistent meal every day is considered fortunate. Having a million in the bank is wealthy to some... and to others... a million in the bank is nothing special.. hence the newish term "middle class millionaire".

 

[blondie621]

I think it is always good to work your way up but if you have the money who'se to say! I started 4 years ago with a Nikon Coolpix, had it for 9 months and it broke down. Then went to a Canon A630. I have taken some pretty good pics with it. Next month am stepping up to the SX10 IS.
After that either a Sony DSLR, Nikon or Canon! :blushing:

 

[EhJsNe]

I say its a result of people listening to salepeople WAAY to much. Spending an extra lotsa moneys just to get a d40x for 4 extra megapixels. even tho a few specs are worse.

I know like 5 people who have amazing cameras (d200, d90, canon 50D, and Canon 20D) with sb-900 flashes and 580 EXII flashes and use reletivelyt nice lenses (18-200, and a few L lenses) who have never taken it off of auto.
They have the money and they got it. They feel nice camera = big price tag = nice pictures.

In my opinion, the mojority of the pictures they take arent to great. (however, the owner of the D200 and 50D do take some neato shots, but nothing worth framing and hanging up....photo almbum worthy.)

I wanted a D300, but I saved for 3 years and got 500 dollars. So I got a used D70 and a 50mm f/1.8 instead. I only wanted he D300 for the amazing burst, but after realize what 3 FPS was, I was perfectly happy with it. Now I am very happy I didnt get the D300.

So I guess the big camera + big price tag = nice pictures must be what people go by.

I wanted my big camrea so I could change lenses and I didnt have to wait 3 seconds after I push the button to take my picture.
If I coul get a P&S with a ultrawide to uber telephoto lens with a constant aperture of 1.8, and have it reletovely compact, along with manual controls and small shutter lag for under the 250 I spent on my D70, I would have. But no such camera exsists. Nor does a lens like that exsist.

So... peace

 

[manaheim]

ACK! Who revitalized this thread?! A pox on you!

 

[bored]

a couple reasons i can think of is that people that starting out might not know much so they think either bigger mp is better or cost is relative to quality of picture. actually, i was talking to my cousin about this, who is working in asia, he mentioned that having an expensive camera is like having a really nice car. it's a show of status.
for me, when i was younger i would buy cheap learning gears for my hobbies, i.e. guitar, bass, paint gun, airsoft gun, etc., and i would always upgrade. i notice i spend more money when i buy cheaper things to get something better when i got better. when i initally get something more expensive i tend to stick with it for the long run and i tend to take better care of my stuff (i treat most of my things like crap >.<). also, it forces me to make a better attempt to learn b/c i can get really lazy.

 

[Overread]

bored makes a valid point (since we are talking about this again) one can grow into better gear and the basics of camera operation for a 300D are the same as they are for a 1DM3 - aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Sure the more expensive camera has way more features that will take time to learn to use, but it will last a long time before the person wants to (or even can) upgrade to a better model.
Of course if your not going to go out of auto modes the lower end cameras are better since they have more auto modes - a 1DM3 good as it is is more limited as you can't tell it to go sports mode - something that newer people moving up from point and shoots where all the controls are by mode selection and not settings, don't understand or even expect.

 

[usayit]

ACK! Who revitalized this thread?! A pox on you!

mike134 is the proud recipient of the manaheim "pox".

Anyways... Beginners with expensive cameras keep the used market alive and saves me a load of cash in the process.

 

[KmH]

......Anyways... Beginners with expensive cameras keep the used market alive and saves me a load of cash in the process.

Good point.......

In response to a previous post.

To go from 6 MP (D40) to 10 MP (D40X) is a substantial increase in MP, 40% and easily cost justified.

Whereas, an increase from 10MP (D40X) to 12 MP (D90) is only a 17% increase and justifying the cost difference just for MP gain is harder to justify. Of course, that wouldn't count the improvement of going from a CCD sensor to CMOS.