whats going to happen to those people who only shoot with phones or never print pics

[Josh66]

Actually, when Joe Average finds an old box of pictures, I hope they are not negative cuz those would be useless, he'll have no idea who's on it and put them back in the attic where he found them...

Useless? I seriously doubt that.

I'd argue that a negative would be more useful in 100 years than a .JPG.

 

[Kolia]

Actually, when Joe Average finds an old box of pictures, I hope they are not negative cuz those would be useless, he'll have no idea who's on it and put them back in the attic where he found them...

Useless? I seriously doubt that.

I'd argue that a negative would be more useful in 100 years than a .JPG.

Although you can look at a negative directly, good luck processing it on your own to get the right color.

It that respect, it's not as easy to use than a picture or a slide.

 

[Josh66]

Negatives are already processed. All that would be required is printing or scanning. Printing in the darkroom might be pretty obscure by then, but I would think there would still be some kind of scanner or camera you could scan it with.

 

[amolitor]

A negative is certainly recoverable, but barriers of any kind are sort of the point in this discussion. People will tend to not bother. Some people will bother, yes. Some people will figure out how to make a picture come out of it. Some people will dig through the faceooglickr accounts.

Most people, many people, won't. Barriers to access cause losses, overall.

Access to digital media is pretty astonishing these days, to be sure! We should be careful online. People with the desire to find things out about us can. Mostly, they can find things out about us that are pretty recent, but a decade past can also be dug up if you are diligent.

But again, the issue here is that the undiligent, the people who only care a little, won't be willing to or will never really get around to, going and finding their own photographic past.

 

[Kolia]

And fiddle how long to get the positive image ? Scan them with what ?

It's not as straight forward as an actual picture and actually more work than retrieving a backup.

 

[Steve5D]

Honestly, it's not that hard to decode the question being asked here. If you insist on correct grammar and clearly written essays for everything on the Internets, well, I wish you luck with that.

If you don't have an answer, it's okay to admit that.

But I do. I know perfectly well what he's asking. I suspect you do as well, but if you don't I'm not going to bother explaining it to you.

Then, please, do be so kind as to paraphrase. If you're unable to do that, it's okay to admit that, too...

 

[480sparky]

Steve's about to beat someone to a bloody pulp again............

 

[Steve5D]

Steve's about to beat someone to a bloody pulp again............

Nah, hardly worth the effort...

 

[kathyt]

Upload the images from your phone and get them printed....just like a camera. What is the difference? (besides the quality) I don't recall images from my childhood being all that spectacular, but at least I have some.

 

[amolitor]

If you don't have an answer, it's okay to admit that.

But I do. I know perfectly well what he's asking. I suspect you do as well, but if you don't I'm not going to bother explaining it to you.

Then, please, do be so kind as to paraphrase. If you're unable to do that, it's okay to admit that, too...

I already said, let me quote from two lines up: 'I'm not going to bother explaining it to you'. I think I am beginning to see your problem.

 

[Aakajx]

I know a lot of mothers that do print photos of their phone.. They might not have a fancy camera but I guess the phones are light and easy. Also I guess it's better then taking no photos at all.
the pictures the new iPhones take are pretty good. I don't have many photos of my childhood and teenage years which is sad.
I wish we did have the camera phones back then. At the same time I'm sick of seeing people take selfies and false pictures of themselves.

I actually had a lot of photos of my daughter on a xd card years ago and the xd failed one day using it and would never work. I never got the chance to print the pictures and I'm spewing over it.

 

[DaPOPO]

The younger generation has a different experience with images than the one I had when I was their age. All we had were printed photographs. And albums. That was how we shared images. My daughter's experience with photographs has been through both prints and digital media, but mostly digital media. She does not perceive prints to be any more or less "permanent" than the jpegs she posts on Facebook. To her, the jpegs online are serving the same purpose as the family album did for me--a way to collect and organize images, but more importantly, a way to share them. When she wants to physically share her images with others, she pulls out her phone and goes through them the same way I used to flip through drugstore prints with my friends. If her friend wants a picture, she emails it to them, and now they can share it with others in the same way. I think the digital copy is the same thing as a physical object to her. It's just in a different format.

This^^^^^^^^

 

[Josh66]

Scan them with what ?

I'm sure there will be some kind of imaging technology - whether it's a camera, scanner, or something we haven't though of yet... There are dozens of threads here on "scanning" film with a DSLR. Contact prints wouldn't be hard to do either.

I actually had a lot of photos of my daughter on a xd card years ago and the xd failed one day using it and would never work. I never got the chance to print the pictures and I'm spewing over it.

I've had hard drives fail, film get lost, backups fail, etc... It always sucks.

There are a lot of pictures where the print is all I have left. When that's gone, it's gone... (I guess I should start scanning some of those.)

 

[robbins.photo]

A negative is certainly recoverable, but barriers of any kind are sort of the point in this discussion. People will tend to not bother. Some people will bother, yes. Some people will figure out how to make a picture come out of it. Some people will dig through the faceooglickr accounts.

Most people, many people, won't. Barriers to access cause losses, overall.

Access to digital media is pretty astonishing these days, to be sure! We should be careful online. People with the desire to find things out about us can. Mostly, they can find things out about us that are pretty recent, but a decade past can also be dug up if you are diligent.

But again, the issue here is that the undiligent, the people who only care a little, won't be willing to or will never really get around to, going and finding their own photographic past.

Well if they don't care enough to preserve their own family memories, then really the media involved becomes a completely moot point. Even if they were to find a shoebox full of photographs they would likely lose it, put it in storage somewhere and never see it again, move and forget to take it with them, whatever.

At some point people need to take just a modicum of responsibility for themselves - and that has nothing to do with whatever media the pictures are stored on - if the people who should care don't, then it really makes zero difference.

 

[Gavjenks]

What's going to happen to them is one of the following:

A) They will develop cell phone AI that can give you tips on basic composition and do an almost perfect job of exposure and everything else that doesn't require moving your feet for you, and sensor size and aspheric optics etc. will increase such that normal shmucks will take pretty halfway decent pictures for blowing up to 8x10 just fine, for purposes of hanging on a wall somewhere and not being embarrassed.
B) "A" won't happen, and those people will grow up and realize they want nicer photos, and either learn to actually take good photos, or hire somebody for the occasional photo
C) Those people will decorate their homes with something other than photos.
D) They (the people) will all be downloaded in computers, and we can just go hang out in the virtual 3-D record of the original experience that was also on a computer, cameras will be obsolete.
E) They will get hit by a bus tomorrow.
F) They will print out bad photos and put bad photos on their walls.

I am at peace with any of the above outcomes, as far as they apply to perfect strangers.