Which One?

smoke665 · Apr 28, 2019

Continuing developing custom profiles in Lr. Same photo, one with a color profile that I'm working on and one as a B&W conversion I'm working on. Any comments??? Likes/dislike

no-image-available-grid.jpg by William Raber, on Flickr

enezdez · Apr 28, 2019

Hey @smoke665 I don't like the skin tones around her face - to white in the B&W version....

Jeff15 · Apr 28, 2019

Number one for me.........

Original katomi · Apr 28, 2019

The colour ver for me

JonFZ300 · Apr 28, 2019

Color for me too

smoke665 · Apr 28, 2019

enezdez said:
Hey @smoke665 I don't like the skin tones around her face - to white in the B&W version....

Hmm, I was leaning toward that decision myself. The exposure, is the same between them, but the highlights are much more pronounced?? Couple of changes to the tone curve channels. Any better?

enezdez · Apr 28, 2019

smoke665 said:
enezdez said:

Hey @smoke665 I don't like the skin tones around her face - to white in the B&W version....

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Hmm, I was leaning toward that decision myself. The exposure, is the same between them, but the highlights are much more pronounced?? Couple of changes to the tone curve channels. Any better?
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@smoke665 Much Better Now!

Derrel · Apr 28, 2019

In color, the syrup shows up much more so than in any of the B&W renderings. I prefer the color rendering.

Original katomi · Apr 28, 2019

Second b&w is better but I still like the colour. I think part of the “problem” of the b&w is that she looks too modern
But I think you just given me the answer to one of my problem pics. I have some yestayear period photos in colour that look wrong. Maybe they will be better b&w

tirediron · Apr 28, 2019

Colour!

smoke665 · Apr 28, 2019

Derrel said:
In color, the syrup shows up much more so than in any of the B&W renderings. I prefer the color rendering.

Probably wasn't the best of comparison, as in this case the color version likely works better for the shot. However since both profiles use many of the same settings, it was still a good test subject for comparison.

Original katomi said:
I think part of the “problem” of the b&w is that she looks too modern

Funny that you mention this, because this is the reason behind the direction I've been going on film simulations as Lr Profiles. The color version is a variation on a Kodak Portra simulation while the B&W is a variation on an Illford Delta simulation. I like the fact that unlike Presets, Profiles, don't affect sliders, offer opacity adjustment, and allow more uniform color control across multiple images.

smoke665 · Apr 28, 2019

enezdez said:
Much Better Now!

Totally forgot to adjust the color channels in curves on the first one.

otherprof · Apr 28, 2019

smoke665 said:
Continuing developing custom profiles in Lr. Same photo, one with a color profile that I'm working on and one as a B&W conversion I'm working on. Any comments??? Likes/dislikes?

flower20190427_0887-2.jpg by William Raber, on Flickr

flower20190427_0887.jpg by William Raber, on Flickr

Its the little drip of ices off her chin than gets my vote for the color version. I didn't notice it in either black and white until I looked for it. I do like the second version of the b & w better than the first.

smoke665 · Apr 28, 2019

otherprof said:
Its the little drip of ices off her chin than gets my vote for the color version. I didn't notice it in either black and white until I looked for it. I do like the second version of the b & w better than the first.

The ice on the chin didn't survive in the B&W version. LOL

vintagesnaps · Apr 28, 2019

The color version seems to have a bit of a purplish cast, like something is off with the color or white balance or exposure. In the B&W version it seems like with the absence of color and being left with the tones it's more noticeable. The color image doesn't particularly look like Portra, and the B&W doesn't look like anything Ilford to me so I'm not sure why they're called that. Just looks like both need adjustment. She's as cute as can be, a little girl with a big icee!