Who is retarded?

[EIngerson]

DD kids? Come on man. Retarded is derogatory? but calling them DD kids isn't? DD kids is plain disrespectful. You don't respect them enough to say the whole title?

Sorry Runnah, I like you and respect you, but I'm 100% serious on this one.

Developmentally Disabled is disrespectful? I abbreviate it because at the time I was on my phone.

Yes, I absolutely think "Developmentally Disabled" is disrespectful. Like I said in a previous post. The PC terms of today are more limiting than retarded. the word "disabled" means "can't" THAT gets me more upset than retarded.

Disclaimer; I am not getting passionate and throwing a tantrum over this subject. Just debating my thoughts. I'd still give you a thug-hug and buy you a beer.

 

[The_Traveler]

The point being is that the injured party has the right to say they are injured or insulted by the way people speak - and you can choose to respect their feelings or not.
If you ignore them on the grounds of convenience or with the specious argument that political correctness offends you, then I think your moral center is retarded.

What gets my goat is when something is called out by someone not involved in the group. For example can white people really say what is racist to a black person?

Anyways I hate the word retarded as I see parents with DD kids all the time at child care and it is heartbreaking to think of those kids being used as a derogatory term. Unless you are adjusting the timing on an engine, don't use it.

This is an interesting and contradictory statement.
You hate this use of the word 'retarded' because you empathize with the children but you can't understand why people who aren't involved call people out.

Robin's usage of the term is offensive; telling him so lets him know that he has offended at least some people.
What he does about it is his choice.

What I do about it is to tell him how I feel about and hope he actually thinks about it.
Then decide how I will interact with him in the future.

Whether someone says something in fun or some other way is irrelevant.
If you kick someone repeatedly and then say you didn't mean it and it shouldn't hurt, does that make it hurt less?

 

[nmoody]

Ouch sorry to hear about the damage on the car. I have to agree with most of the people and say its "Me" You shouldn't of needed to use that striped area to back out of the spot successfully.

But thats why we all have (should have) insurance to help with our occasional stupidities. We all do something stupid from time to time.

 

[runnah]

This is an interesting and contradictory statement.
You hate this use of the word 'retarded' because you empathize with the children but you can't understand why people who aren't involved call people out.

I should have clarified more.

Adults and children who are developmentally disable don't have a voice to stand up against derogatory terms. It is up to people to stand up for them. On the flip side, people of different races, religions and creeds do have a voice to state their displeasure with a term, commercial, movie etc.. In this case I feel that it is up to the group to define what they find offensive not what other people outside the group think they should find offensive.

 

[DarkShadow]

What is politically correct today may change tomorrow then what we have to walk on egg shells not to say the former. Disability is disability calling some one thats physically Disabled or developmentally Disabled or mental illness is not disrespectful.It's pretty much how social security would word it for those that are Disabled for benefits from SSA and SSI.

 

[runnah]

Yes, I absolutely think "Developmentally Disabled" is disrespectful. Like I said in a previous post. The PC terms of today are more limiting than retarded. the word "disabled" means "can't" THAT gets me more upset than retarded.

Its not a PC term, it's a diagnosis.

 

[sm4him]

R-word | Spread the Word to End the Word

Not to hijack Robins amusing thread, but while I respect and support the idea of that webpage, the world is just getting way to Politically Correct! One of my favorite fish to see when diving, is no longer called a Jewfish... now it is a Goliath Grouper (and it wasn't the Jewish community that started that, it was some PC do gooder!).

It is how words are used... and the A-holes using them that make the word "evil"... that or the occasional oversensitive somebody who is so easily offended that you can't even breathe around them.

When is this nonsense going to stop?

While I see both sides here, I tend to agree with Charlie here. We go so far overboard trying to avoid words that carry these negative connotations, but the truth is--they are only negative when they are USED in a negative way. We can avoid them, and slowly, as the English languages evolves, we can add more and more words to the "offensive" list, and pretty soon we have this great big long list of words to avoid calling people...and yet, the bullies and mean-spirited of the world will STILL have no problem coming up with new terms to make it clear that they are being derogatory.

I think it was Steven Wright, a comedian, who said he had decided to only tell "Stupid People" jokes, because nobody was likely to come up to him afterwards and tell him, "Hey, I'm stupid and that joke really offended me." :lmao:

So, Robin...I hate to bear the bad news, but...that was STUPID. :lmao:

On a side note about the "which word is PC" issue--
As a professional editor/writer who often has to write copy for governmental agencies, I get this little booklet every year called the "People First Language Style Guide" that basically spells out what the ADA folks consider "acceptable" terms for different individuals with disabilities.
Developmental Disability? That's a no-no; it's "individuals with a disability." Retarded, disabled, handicapped, autistic, epileptic and brain-damaged are all TABOO.

Some of the ones that really leave me shaking my head:
Deaf: they recommend you not USE "deaf" but rather, and I quote, "ask the person who is being written or talked about what term they prefer." Well, good grief, how do I do that when I am referring to an unknown GROUP of people who cannot hear?? I'm sorry, I mean no offense, but they are DEAF.
Blind: Nope, don't call 'em blind. Call them either "person who is visually impaired" or "person with visual impairments." NO, I'm Sorry...a person with visual impairments is someone like ME; I can SEE, but I have vision issues. People who cannot see are BLIND, get over it.

And my favorite? You are not supposed to refer to anyone as "normal" or "healthy." You should refer to these people as "typically developing." :lmao:

Well, I'm sorry if I offend those of you who have this particular disability, but this is EATEN UP with STOOPID.

 

[EIngerson]

Yes, I absolutely think "Developmentally Disabled" is disrespectful. Like I said in a previous post. The PC terms of today are more limiting than retarded. the word "disabled" means "can't" THAT gets me more upset than retarded.

Its not a PC term, it's a diagnosis.

So was retarded back in the day.

 

[runnah]

Yes, I absolutely think "Developmentally Disabled" is disrespectful. Like I said in a previous post. The PC terms of today are more limiting than retarded. the word "disabled" means "can't" THAT gets me more upset than retarded.

Its not a PC term, it's a diagnosis.

So was retarded back in the day.

Well it was acceptable to call black people negro and colored, but we've grown as a culture.

 

[jwbryson1]

Those of you who questions my driving ability... F U!

Proof is in the pudding, Amigo. Open your eyes. 0.0

 

[runnah]

Those of you who questions my driving ability... F U!

Proof is in the pudding, Amigo. Open your eyes. 0.0

True, the only stationary object I hit was a tree after sliding off the road at 65mph. And I was trying to get the ass end to slide out, not back up.

 

[DarkShadow]

Thank god for growth or we be stuck in the ice age. Back on topic, Maybe robin needs a backup camera.

 

[EIngerson]

Its not a PC term, it's a diagnosis.

So was retarded back in the day.

Well it was acceptable to call black people negro and colored, but we've grown as a culture.

Negro is still acceptable and I can see why colored is off limits. It's not about growth. It's about perception. Unfortunately perception becomes reality.

 

[jwbryson1]

An attorney I work with backed up into a BUS in a rental car. How in the EFF do you do that?

 

[bentcountershaft]

...we've grown as a culture.

Maybe in a petri dish.