Why is it that shots on the camera screen....

[Ballistics]

Is this a serious question? I'm not being a smart ass... I've seen you around here, but I don't know enough about you yet to determine whether or not you're being serious...

Rhetorical question really. Obviously calibrating will effect an monitors sharpness, color, etc. But to the point where it is drastic enough to alter the opinion of an image?

Absolutely.

Before I bought the monitor I have, I had an older monitor that was uncalibrated. Not only was it uncalibrated, but I don't think it had the capability to display as many colors as newer monitors do... that or it was just REALLY old. I dunno, but all the photos I've ever edited using that monitor are trash to me now. I just looked at them the other day going through what I wanted to use for my portfolio, and shots I liked before and have used before, I won't touch now.

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

Do you ever print your work or just keep it saved digitally?

 

[Josh66]

Here is something odd, when I open the image in PS CS4... the image looks identical to the camera. If I open it in folder view, or use windows viewer, it looks like over exposed film from the 70s.

Sounds like a color space issue.

What color space is your camera set to?

How would I find that out.

...It should be a setting in the menus somewhere. What camera do you have?

 

[Ballistics]

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

See, this is scary to me... because I just rebuilt a computer based solely on image/video editing, and I haven't upgraded the monitor. I would hate to think that images are good, only to find out years later that they are useless.

 

[Ballistics]

Sounds like a color space issue.

What color space is your camera set to?

How would I find that out.

...It should be a setting in the menus somewhere. What camera do you have?

D7000

 

[Josh66]

Do you ever print your work or just keep it saved digitally?

I print all the good stuff. And some of the mediocre stuff.
(I know you weren't asking me...)

 

[Josh66]

OK, take a look at page 141 and 142 of your manual.

My guess is that it's set to Adobe RGB, and whatever software Windows uses to view them in the folder is using sRGB...


...

Read the thing on pg 142 and see if that sounds like what you're experiencing...

 

[e.rose]

Rhetorical question really. Obviously calibrating will effect an monitors sharpness, color, etc. But to the point where it is drastic enough to alter the opinion of an image?

Absolutely.

Before I bought the monitor I have, I had an older monitor that was uncalibrated. Not only was it uncalibrated, but I don't think it had the capability to display as many colors as newer monitors do... that or it was just REALLY old. I dunno, but all the photos I've ever edited using that monitor are trash to me now. I just looked at them the other day going through what I wanted to use for my portfolio, and shots I liked before and have used before, I won't touch now.

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

Do you ever print your work or just keep it saved digitally?

I've printed some of my recent stuff. Not any of the stuff that was done on the old monitor.

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

See, this is scary to me... because I just rebuilt a computer based solely on image/video editing, and I haven't upgraded the monitor. I would hate to think that images are good, only to find out years later that they are useless.

That's an easy fix... just buy a calibrator, haha. :sillysmi:

Unless your monitor is not only old, but cheap and crappy like mine was. :lmao: Then you're just gonna want a new monitor.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

See, this is scary to me... because I just rebuilt a computer based solely on image/video editing, and I haven't upgraded the monitor. I would hate to think that images are good, only to find out years later that they are useless.

My old monitor used to be a good one, but they degrade over the years, and it became truly crappy. My new monitor is sweet! Something to keep in mind...your audience. If you share your images mainly on the web, you have no clue how bad other peoples monitors are. Your main concern is calibrating for print, and your monitor. If you print your images, and have been happy with the results, do nothing. If you have not been impressed by your prints, calibrate. You are delving into an interesting and highly technical and fairly complex world of color gamuts, print profiles, even for PAPER!

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Here's an example...

See the 3 different areas?

The Old was my old monitor, that had the brightness cranked. So what looked white to me was grey on a calibrated monitor. The Old New was my new monitor before calibration. Do you see a green tint to it? And then New, which is the new monitor after it was calibrated. It's clean white. I had issues thinking the white had a pink tinge to it, but I think it was because I was used to the green tinge. It's all good now. Print fine. But I can't control what others see. Some might not see thevgreen tint section, if their monitorsvare off. If they are too bright, th grey will look white, andvth new section will look way over exposed. Make sense?

 

[Quentin_Moyer]

n00b question. I'm guessing if I'm seeing a perfect, untinged example in "newest", I can assume I'm properly calibrated?
I did auto-calibrate in Corel, but from what I hear that isn't worth much.

 

[Ballistics]

Absolutely.

Before I bought the monitor I have, I had an older monitor that was uncalibrated. Not only was it uncalibrated, but I don't think it had the capability to display as many colors as newer monitors do... that or it was just REALLY old. I dunno, but all the photos I've ever edited using that monitor are trash to me now. I just looked at them the other day going through what I wanted to use for my portfolio, and shots I liked before and have used before, I won't touch now.

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

Do you ever print your work or just keep it saved digitally?

I've printed some of my recent stuff. Not any of the stuff that was done on the old monitor.

They're all wrong, but I couldn't tell that before because my monitor wasn't calibrated. I either need to re-edit them, or just forget they even exist.

See, this is scary to me... because I just rebuilt a computer based solely on image/video editing, and I haven't upgraded the monitor. I would hate to think that images are good, only to find out years later that they are useless.

That's an easy fix... just buy a calibrator, haha. :sillysmi:

Unless your monitor is not only old, but cheap and crappy like mine was. :lmao: Then you're just gonna want a new monitor.

In terms of computer life, it is old. Probably 4 or 5 years old monitor. But im considering using my HDTV in my living room for photo editing now because I personally calibrated it, and it is relatively new. And there is nothing better than sitting 5 ft away from a 52" screen

My old monitor used to be a good one, but they degrade over the years, and it became truly crappy. My new monitor is sweet! Something to keep in mind...your audience. If you share your images mainly on the web, you have no clue how bad other peoples monitors are. Your main concern is calibrating for print, and your monitor. If you print your images, and have been happy with the results, do nothing. If you have not been impressed by your prints, calibrate. You are delving into an interesting and highly technical and fairly complex world of color gamuts, print profiles, even for PAPER!

Sometimes, I wish I never do research. Because, I go from estimating a budget of $600 and being happy with it, to be now pushing $1500 and counting. And it's all because I do research. If I start researching printers, I will have a $900 printer in my house by next week lol. I think that is my biggest problem; the fear of buying crap and not knowing any better. I enrolled in a digital photography course in college(which doesn't start until the 29th), and I went from owning a D5100 kit - To owning a D7000 kit, 55-200mm, and a 50mm 1.8D. in a matter of a month. All because of research. As far as printing goes, I don't find my pictures worthy of ink yet. Maybe once I delve into the artistic side of my photography (with your help ). I'll have to contrast my living room TV to my monitor, see how it stands up.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Well, it matches the forum background white, and if your monitor is off, the forum background will be too. Your eyes and mind can adjust to an off color and read it as white. Does that help!

 

[Ballistics]

Here's an example...

See the 3 different areas?

The Old was my old monitor, that had the brightness cranked. So what looked white to me was grey on a calibrated monitor. The Old New was my new monitor before calibration. Do you see a green tint to it? And then New, which is the new monitor after it was calibrated. It's clean white. I had issues thinking the white had a pink tinge to it, but I think it was because I was used to the green tinge. It's all good now. Print fine. But I can't control what others see. Some might not see thevgreen tint section, if their monitorsvare off. If they are too bright, th grey will look white, andvth new section will look way over exposed. Make sense?

How did you come to the conclusion that you needed a new monitor? Did you happen to have a monitor to compare?

 

[Quentin_Moyer]

Your eyes and mind can adjust to an off color and read it as white. Does that help!

I see what you mean. It does look the smallest bit blue compared to some paper from the printer [no, I'm not comparing it to the quoted text backgrounds], nothing drastic though. But yes, it does :thumbup:

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I didn't know I needed one till I bought a new PC for photography, and a monitor for it. Comparing images across the new and old PC, and iPads and iPhones I determined I needed to get an xRite eye2 calibrator. What a difference. I never could get the old monitor calibrated correctly. iPad displayed are pretty accurate, but probably degrade over time as well. My old monitor was at least 4 years old, and very well used.