You got my attention........

[Ballistics]

LMAO!! :lmao: You are correct! Thank you captain!!

If you know, then why do you make such ridiculous statements?
Can you please explain why a point and shoot can't take "good artistic photos"?

 

[Elizabeth30]

Images that are OOF, are not artistic they are simply out of focus. You can't start calling it "artistic" until you can nail your focus 100% of the time.

I think OOF can be beautiful!!! It can be an art..... EXAMPLE M4H P52 Week 2 "Life" | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
and here's one of those "every day moments" that I find artistic Wall Photos | Facebookand how about the focus on this one? Wall Photos | Facebook

I'm sorry you feel you are being picked on

I don't feel like I'm being picked on. I like all the advice/feedback

 

[Elizabeth30]

LMAO!! :lmao: You are correct! Thank you captain!!

If you know, then why do you make such ridiculous statements?

Because I'm awesome like that!!

Can you please explain why a point and shoot can't take "good artistic photos"?

um, I think this is a trick question, best if I don't answer this..........

 

[Elizabeth30]

We're all jumping ahead of the game here. Elizabeth has some phenomenal potential and she may well be creating something truly amazing. We aren't going to know and neither is she until her monitor is calibrated. The shot of the daughter in the snow is a good basic shot. The one she posted that we edited is a pretty good piece to work with, the one of the girl on the tracks that she posted the original is a good basic shot.
It's getting thrown in the editing and she isn't even seeing what is happening to her editing because of the calibration issue.
Critique of exposure and color are useless until you have truly calibrated monitor.

Thank you! I really think part of the problem is I'm using alaptop with a glossy screen. Everything look different if you tilt your screen even slightly.

 

[MTVision]

The big difference is that some of those are done on purpose.
The one of the little girl is her own little girl isnt it? That's a big difference. I keep OOF shots of my kids too.

 

[MWC2]

I think OOF can be beautiful!!! It can be an art..... EXAMPLE M4H P52 Week 2 "Life" | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
and here's one of those "every day moments" that I find artistic Wall Photos | Facebookand how about the focus on this one? Wall Photos | Facebook

I don't feel like I'm being picked on. I like all the advice/feedback

You failed to see my point, they are artistic when done correctly and by someone who knows what they are doing. When you look at the image you linked to by Two Hens, it doesn't scream OOF, your sample of the little girl sleeping, is no where near the quality of that image, yours is simply out of focus. I really hate to break it to you but you are not on the same skill level as those ladies (neither am I).

I believe someone in my photography club said "photographers who call their work artistic to justify not having basic skills or technical knowledge are not only trying to fool the public but are fooling themselves" I think that might apply here.

 

[Elizabeth30]

if you saw my earlier post about this image i wasn't trying to get HER in focus I was trying to capture the bunny in focus and her to be blurred in the background. The bunny looks focused to me. Not the whole bunny just a small part of it. That's what i wanted

 

[Elizabeth30]

You failed to see my point, they are artistic when done correctly and by someone who knows what they are doing. When you look at the image you linked to by Two Hens, it doesn't scream OOF, your sample of the little girl sleeping, is no where near the quality of that image, yours is simply out of focus. I really hate to break it to you but you are not on the same skill level as those ladies (neither am I).

I believe someone in my photography club said "photographers who call their work artistic to justify not having basic skills or technical knowledge are not only trying to fool the public but are fooling themselves" I think that might apply here.

Woah, I was not trying to say I am even CLOSE to the skill this photographer has!!! I just love her work! My photos could not be any where near that even if I had all the skills because I'm shooting a rebel, with a 50mm 1.8??? Obviously NOT professional gear but I still think the photo has artistic value in it.

 

[punch]

if you saw my earlier post about this image i wasn't trying to get HER in focus I was trying to capture the bunny in focus and her to be blurred in the background. The bunny looks focused to me. Not the whole bunny just a small part of it. That's what i wanted

Whether it was her or the bunny as the intended focus... it isn't terribly focused, and moreover the subject is too high in the frame.

MWC2 (and tell me if I'm incorrect) isn't saying intentional OOF is a no-no, she's saying your OOF was unintentional, and not OOF in the right way to look artistic.

 

[Ballistics]

um, I think this is a trick question, best if I don't answer this..........

Trick question? You are the one that established this in your post. You said you can't take a "good artistic photo" with a point and shoot. Why can't you?

 

[punch]

Woah, I was not trying to say I am even CLOSE to the skill this photographer has!!! I just love her work! My photos could not be any where near that even if I had all the skills because I'm shooting a rebel, with a 50mm 1.8??? Obviously NOT professional gear but I still think the photo has artistic value in it.

Uh oh. I can link you to several really well-executed photos using that EXACT gear. It's a poor carpenter that blames his tools...

 

[MLeeK]

We're all jumping ahead of the game here. Elizabeth has some phenomenal potential and she may well be creating something truly amazing. We aren't going to know and neither is she until her monitor is calibrated. The shot of the daughter in the snow is a good basic shot. The one she posted that we edited is a pretty good piece to work with, the one of the girl on the tracks that she posted the original is a good basic shot.
It's getting thrown in the editing and she isn't even seeing what is happening to her editing because of the calibration issue.
Critique of exposure and color are useless until you have truly calibrated monitor.

Thank you! I really think part of the problem is I'm using alaptop with a glossy screen. Everything look different if you tilt your screen even slightly.

If you must use a lapotp you can do it. It's far from ideal because a laptop not only has a glossy screen, but it is missing much of the bit depth. It doesn't show all of the colors or shades of light to dark.
ANYWAY, if you must you can... kind of. Calibrate every time you edit. Edit in the same place every time. Make sure your monitor is positioned properly before you calibrate.
If you have to edit professionally on a laptop get an external monitor for it.
I'd imagine that at times the saturated stuff looks like blown colors (OVER colored) to you-even when it isn't. You can't see all of them on your monitor.

 

[Elizabeth30]

Uh oh. I can link you to several really well-executed photos using that EXACT gear. It's a poor carpenter that blames his tools...

I'm interested, link me............

 

[MWC2]

MWC2 (and tell me if I'm incorrect) isn't saying intentional OOF is a no-no, she's saying your OOF was unintentional, and not OOF in the right way to look artistic.

Correct!

I am no where near being a professional or even anywhere near where I want to be as a hobbyist, but even I can see there are major issues with these pictures. Trying to sell these as artistic is a cop out, learn your camera, learn about exposure, learn the technical side of photography as well as about composition.

Your already in business, you have clients, if you want to keep those clients you need to grow as a photographer or they will be moving on to the next cheap photographer that comes along.

 

[Elizabeth30]

if you saw my earlier post about this image i wasn't trying to get HER in focus I was trying to capture the bunny in focus and her to be blurred in the background. The bunny looks focused to me. Not the whole bunny just a small part of it. That's what i wanted

Whether it was her or the bunny as the intended focus... it isn't terribly focused, and moreover the subject is too high in the frame.

MWC2 (and tell me if I'm incorrect) isn't saying intentional OOF is a no-no, she's saying your OOF was unintentional, and not OOF in the right way to look artistic.

I just said I WAS intentional. Look again, the bunny is in focus. I agree that she's too high in the frame but out of all the shots that day this one seemed closest to what I was trying to convey so that's why I chose to edit this one.