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5D MK II Announced - the moon shines

oh yes the mark 1 is also a good macro camera, but I think video for many is a bonus they want to try - 12 mins is more than enough for most macro events.
 
Without sounding snarky, I don't think I've ever seen serious photography with a fisheye, except maybe some skateboarder stuff so it looks like the guy is getting a lot of air.
 
the image quality of the landscape shot is laughable.
the portrait shot detail is soft as soap.

that lens cannot deliver the resolving power for that level of MP.
 
that lens cannot deliver the resolving power for that level of MP.

What makes you think it is the lens??

The portrait of the girl was taken with the 50mm f/1.2L @ f/2. Do a calculation of DOF at around 4-5 feet..... Shooting at that aperture as a demonstration of the sharpness and detail of a camera/lens is laughable.

There are so many reasons why making an assessment of either camera or lens based on those two samples is completely idiotic. Not to mention we are all staring at Jpegs. How about actually wait for a in depth review....

Both 50mm L and the 24-105L are known to perform better than what is in the samples... I'd say even the 5D MI with either can also.... First time I've heard anyone call 24-105L optically not sharp unless over f/8.... thats laughable.... Compared to typical primes.. yeh... but not capable of sharp images unless f/8.. :lol:

Sheesh...
 
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You know, unless someone can convince me otherwise, I think I'm probably going to get a D700 and sell the Canon gear. The 5DII may have some detailed advantages over the D700, but the Nikon seems a more rounded camera for general use. For me, good performance in low light is the most important factor and the D700 has already proven itself there. Being able to use it, or just to carry it, in pouring rain or very wet conditions is also important to me as I like hill walking/climbing in Britain and it often rains. It seems extraordinary that Canon haven't picked up on this one.
 
Is it really worth selling your canon kit and moving to nikon when a year - 2 years down the road you will get a now load of bodies and canon might end up looking more attractive?
I can't help but feel that unless you have a really important issue (like a highly paid professional where the kit will earn back its keep - and I don't know you might be) or one series of lenses is giving you an edge - that it is really worth switching.
If you are not earning off the kit then chances are switching to nikon (which tend to be more expensive lenses generally - on the longer primes for certain) then I just see it as a money sink really - preventing you from moving on.
If the body is not up to scratch now (and lets face it few body upgrades are worth upgrading to if you own the previous body modle) then invest in a new lens - £2000 or there abouts is either some very good short/meduim gear or well on the way to a top rate long prime - get lenses now and then in a few years come back to bodies
 
The 5DII may have some detailed advantages over the D700, but...

I don't think it does. Processing and lens settings considered I still think there is a very fundamental resolving problem. Either the lens is bad or the CCD is bad. "Not the final version" of the camera would mean to me ony that the processing engine is the old one or not yet debugged fully. If this is the case (and I believe these guys here - they're pretty top shelf photographers) then I should be able to make up the differences in PS for the most part. I can't. The images are moooshed!

If it's the DOF as is being stated in the case of the portrait then the in-focus areas should be crisp and clean. They aren't. They too are moooshed and the kinda mooshedness it has looks the same to me as a too dense P&S sensor or a reeeeeely crappy lens being used. The older Canon 21MP FF sensor looks the same to me too. It's moooshed! All the images I've seen in full rez without processing from that cam look moooshed to me. It's almost like a posterizing filter was run on it or a 128 color pallet was used initially and then blurred in true-color space. :( That's what it looks like to me anyway. When I see 100% crops side by side from the D3 or D700 and the older Canon FF sensor I always point to the D700/D3 image as being far far superior in terms of color fidelity and image resolution. This new one looks like the same deal only MUCH worse.

With the 1080P video acquisition I want this camera but I sure wish they had gone with a lower density sensor design. Yeah, ≤ 14 mp would be great. ;) I wanna get something pretty soon - I'm already getting bored (again) with this little A2. :-P
 
Is it really worth selling your canon kit and moving to nikon

I'm just beginning to feel that Canon have lost the plot, whereas Nikon are right there. I know others who feel the same way and have made the switch - and in no way regret it.
 
I'm just beginning to feel that Canon have lost the plot, whereas Nikon are right there. I know others who feel the same way and have made the switch - and in no way regret it.

I think its more that nikon made a wildlife/sports photographers camera and canon made a journalists one ;)
I don't worry about it since I know in time that things will change again - besides nikon long primes cost far more than canon long primes -- and its hard enough to save up for one of them!
 
I find it interesting that anyone will switch from one system to another at a drop of a hat because of a few nuances. A few months ago it was unheard of to take images at ISO 6400 or higher, now it's "They do not perform well at ISO12800". We will have to wait a couple of more models to see ISO 100 quality at much higher levels. Hopefully. Far better to invest in good glass than follow the "Body Race". I guarantee that within the next 6-8 months, Nikon will unveil the D3x and Canon will follow suit with the 1D Mark IV. Both of which will blow the socks off anything before them and be much more camera than any photographer can handle. As long as the camera can perform to your needs, your good to go. The new 5D has most of the features that many photographers have been craving from Canon's perspective, minus a dedicated mirror lock-up button to get rid of the direct print. Yeah I wish the Af was 1D-ish, but other than that it is a solid product. The sample images are mediocre, but until I test it myself under the conditions that I am actually going to use it in, I will hold judgement. I have no idea what sort of PP were done to these images, compression, etc. As far as resolving issue with lens and sensors, that was inherent with the 1Ds Mark III and may be with the 5D Mark II. At FF 20+MP anything less than top-shelf lenses will not hold up. That includes many L's. I have that issue now with my 40D and 400mm. 2 cents.
 

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