Canon vs nikon

[nickzou]

I'd go with T1i and better glass. They aren't all that different cosmetically from my brief time with the T1i and the T3i. Or maybe that was the XSi compared to the T1i... god damn the Rebels are confusing.

You are aware that they joke about the T3i being the T2i Flip right? The better glass will serve you much better than whatever noise performance you'll get from the newer model.It's kind of a fact of life that at consumer level DSLRs you don't get awesome noise performance. Wider aperture over ISO performance all the way.

 

[manaheim]

I'd go with T1i and better glass. They aren't all that different cosmetically from my brief time with the T1i and the T3i. Or maybe that was the XSi compared to the T1i... god damn the Rebels are confusing.

You are aware that they joke about the T3i being the T2i Flip right? The better glass will serve you much better than whatever noise performance you'll get from the newer model.It's kind of a fact of life that at consumer level DSLRs you don't get awesome noise performance. Wider aperture over ISO performance all the way.

I don't agree with this.

So many people on this forum say to buy better glass, and I understand why, but think of it this way...

Better glass is EXPONENTIALLY more expensive than lesser glass.
A better camera is LINEARLY more expensive than a lesser camera.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography will be far less likely to notice the difference between a $2000 lens and a $200 lens.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography is just as likely to notice the limitations of a lesser camera as someone more seasoned.

Spend a bit more money on a better body to begin with and then work your way into better glass as budget permits.

Obviously, if you have the money, then buy it all now, but generally most people don't.

 

[greybeard38 10]

I'd go with T1i and better glass. They aren't all that different cosmetically from my brief time with the T1i and the T3i. Or maybe that was the XSi compared to the T1i... god damn the Rebels are confusing.

You are aware that they joke about the T3i being the T2i Flip right? The better glass will serve you much better than whatever noise performance you'll get from the newer model.It's kind of a fact of life that at consumer level DSLRs you don't get awesome noise performance. Wider aperture over ISO performance all the way.

What would you get as a step up lens from the kit lens that comes with the t3i?

 

[nickzou]

A 50 1.4 or a 35 1.4. I'll be honest, I'm not too familiar with Canon glass but I'd say a fast prime is always better than the kit lens. I have the kit lens on my GF2, which is a 28-84 35mm equivalent but all I end up doing is shooting at 14mm and at f3.5 which always leads me to the thought "what am I doing with a zoom lens if all I'm going to do is shoot 14mm?"

 

[kalin0121]

I don't agree with this.

So many people on this forum say to buy better glass, and I understand why, but think of it this way...

Better glass is EXPONENTIALLY more expensive than lesser glass.
A better camera is LINEARLY more expensive than a lesser camera.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography will be far less likely to notice the difference between a $2000 lens and a $200 lens.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography is just as likely to notice the limitations of a lesser camera as someone more seasoned.

Spend a bit more money on a better body to begin with and then work your way into better glass as budget permits.

Obviously, if you have the money, then buy it all now, but generally most people don't.

Which would you go with T3i, T2i, or T1i?
Or do you have a better suggestion on a camera in my budget ($1000)?

 

[kalin0121]

A 50 1.4 or a 35 1.4. I'll be honest, I'm not too familiar with Canon glass but I'd say a fast prime is always better than the kit lens. I have the kit lens on my GF2, which is a 28-84 35mm equivalent but all I end up doing is shooting at 14mm and at f3.5 which always leads me to the thought "what am I doing with a zoom lens if all I'm going to do is shoot 14mm?"

I like to shoot insects which are very small but also move quickly. What lens would be best for that? Oh and I can't spend much so it would need to be like a 200-300$ lens. I know that limits it a lot.

 

[KmH]

The T1i is discontiued and no longer shown on Canon USA's web site.

The T2i and the T3i have few meaningful differences. DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

Flip a coin.

I recommend Nikon over Canon.

 

[nickzou]

Insects are hard and you probably won't be able to find anything within that price range that does macro. That being said a good solution would be to get a 50 1.4 or even a 50 1.8 and get some extension tubes. I think that is within your budget.

 

[nickzou]

The T1i is discontiued and no longer shown on Canon USA's web site.

The T2i and the T3i have few meaningful differences. DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

Flip a coin.

Whao.... why did the T3i score less when everything was identical except for ISO performance... which it outperformed the T2i at.

 

[mozzie71]

I wonder has anyone here actually got both so that the comparison is worth reading

Don't be silly. Having both will split a hole in the space/time continuum and end the universe.

It does seem that way at times... Im a Canon shooter... but thats only because thats what I started with... Im not in the war.. Im a casual observer.

 

[mozzie71]

A 50 1.4 or a 35 1.4. I'll be honest, I'm not too familiar with Canon glass but I'd say a fast prime is always better than the kit lens. I have the kit lens on my GF2, which is a 28-84 35mm equivalent but all I end up doing is shooting at 14mm and at f3.5 which always leads me to the thought "what am I doing with a zoom lens if all I'm going to do is shoot 14mm?"

I must admit the cheap crappy 50mm 1.8 I got for $100 is way better (and fun) than the crappy stock lens I first had.

 

[Derrel]

So many people on this forum say to buy better glass, and I understand why, but think of it this way...

Better glass is EXPONENTIALLY more expensive than lesser glass.
A better camera is LINEARLY more expensive than a lesser camera.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography will be far less likely to notice the difference between a $2000 lens and a $200 lens.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography is just as likely to notice the limitations of a lesser camera as someone more seasoned.

Spend a bit more money on a better body to begin with and then work your way into better glass as budget permits.

Obviously, if you have the money, then buy it all now, but generally most people don't.

Beautifully stated manaheim! I agree with your point of view.

 

[jedirunner]

Ford vs. Chevy....

And Sony fits in like Dodge!

My neighbor shoots nikon and drives a Ford pickup. I shoot canon and drive a Chevy. He's also my boss at work. Hmm... Not sure that's really worth consideration or not.

Kevin

 

[djacobox372]

I don't agree with this.

So many people on this forum say to buy better glass, and I understand why, but think of it this way...

Better glass is EXPONENTIALLY more expensive than lesser glass.
A better camera is LINEARLY more expensive than a lesser camera.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography will be far less likely to notice the difference between a $2000 lens and a $200 lens.
Someone newer to the field/hobby of photography is just as likely to notice the limitations of a lesser camera as someone more seasoned.

Spend a bit more money on a better body to begin with and then work your way into better glass as budget permits.

Obviously, if you have the money, then buy it all now, but generally most people don't.

I tend to agree; however, youre leaving out investment cost. Pro lenses depreciate very slowly, whereas camera bodies prices fall fast. Think of it this way, when released the d200 and the 70-200mm 2.8 vr cost the same, but now the lens is still worth $1300, whereas the d200 is only $400--the further u go back the more extreme the difference.

 

[davisphotos]

Unfortunately in the Canon world, the 35mm f1.4 is about $900 more than the 50mm f1.4. I absolutely love primes, if you are shooting at 14mm all the time, I would definitely get their 14mm f2.5 prime.