Change from Canon to Nikon?

[Gavjenks]

Hey why don't you take a look at overstock.com the nikon 24-70 is $1489 vs $2299 Canon. And the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 vrii is $1879 vs 2499 canon lens. So you're trying to tell me that they are priced similar? You should just shut the hell up, I know what I'm talking about. I'm not making those prices up.

When I search for the Nikon 70-200 on overstock I get no results.

In fact I don't see a single Nikon lens of any sort on overstock.com, nor is Nikon listed in their list of brand names for lenses. Plus, all the major camera online new product dealers list the lens for the same $2400 price.

Amazon: $2400 Amazon.com: Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II AF-S Nikkor Zoom Lens For Nikon Digital SLR Cameras: NIKON: Camera & Photo
B&H: $2400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II Lens2185 B&H Photo
Adorama: $2400 Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G AF-S VR II Nikkor ED-IF Lens - Nikon USA Warranty 2185




Perhaps you are referring to "overstockdigital.com" ? That's almost definitely NOT the same company. I can't tell for sure, because they have dodgy contact info. In fact, the address they have listed in their contact info isn't even a real physical office:
OverstockDigital.com --> contact info
Virtual Office Address at 1455 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, District of Columbia 20004 | Davinci Virtual Office Space & Solutions

It's a place where you pay $150 a month to have mail forwarded from a place that sounds like an office building, and you can get day rates on shared conference rooms. Classy.




I'm guessing the cheap 70-200 you are seeing is either a complete scam, or more likely, it is a gray market lens, which means you need to take it to the reseller for service requests. Which is sometimes fine, if the reseller is reputable. But in this case, the reseller is a weird sketchy fake office business that is probably spoofing a better known business' name, and may or may not still exist a month from now, and may or may not ever respond to email or phones, which may or may not be located in a Vietnamese prison camp.

Anyway, best case scenario, "gray market Nikons are cheaper than white market canons" Duh. Gray market canons would probably ALSO be about $1900

Yes the 14-24 nikon is quite a bit more expensive, but its 2mm wider and doesn't have any overlap. Sorry I've just heard it was the best wide angle zoom you can get. But I guess I'm wrong.

I didn't make any claims as to which of those lenses was better.

Also, what do you mean by "doesn't have any overlap?"

 

[Blair387]

Ya sorry I meant overstockdigital.com and by overlap I mean with nikon you have 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200.so every focal length is covered. With the canon setup you have 16-35, but then you go backwards to the 24-70. So you are basically covering the 24-35mm range again that you already have with the 16-35. Does that make sense?

 

[Gavjenks]

Nikon also makes like 30 million other lenses that DO overlap with those ranges. For example:
24-85
17-35
18-35
28-300
24-120
80-400
and last but not least, their OWN 16-35 (both companies make a FF one)

So I'm not sure what your point is. All major companies have a bunch of zoom lens models that all overlap in dozens of ways in focal range.

Your "no overlap" thing only makes sense if you cherry pick certain lenses. I could just as easily say that "Canon has a 8-15mm fisheye zoom that matches up with its 16-35 with no overlap, and Nikon doesn't." But so what? I don't even quite understand why you think overlap is a bad thing. 24-35 is a pretty useful range, and having two lenses capable of doing it can be useful, because you can cover shots in that range without having to switch lenses, regardless of which one you have on at the moment. *shrug* It can be good (flexible/fast) or bad (wasteful) depending on how you shoot.

 

[Buck777]

Always had nikon. Always stuck with the company that only sticks with optics. I do have a point and shoot canon, which is ok, and I'm looking at Panasonic for an underwater camera, as the Nikon and Canon seem to have been surpassed in that area. But the D800 has changed the scene. The selection of lenses is also good in Nikon for all budgets.

 

[raventepes]

So you're thinking of switching to Nikon, huh? Well let me ask you this. Are you prepared to (or do you already) wear socks with your sandals?

 

[Blair387]

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

 

[bratkinson]

You're contemplating jumping ship with an 82mm filter size as one of your reasons why? You have to be kidding me!

Realistically, I view switching brands as a traumatic change. Everything from the positioning of the buttons to menu setup will be different, from what I've read. That alone will take some getting used to.

But my biggest concern is the financial side. Using ebay as a 'general used-equipment price guide, check out what your 7D, two L lenses, flash, and anything else Canon/for Canon (eg, non-Canon lenses, etc) that you will be selling. Don't forget to add in the cost of sales...on ebay with Paypal, 12-15%!!!! Plus shipping. So that 'three grand or so' you were expecting to get turns into $2500, maybe less. Even to buy comparable Nikon gear, you're looking at $6000? (I haven't a clue on Nikon pricing) Net cost of the change? $3500, give or take.

That's the price of a 5D mark iii. No trauma, no hassle, 'drop dead sharp' focusing and ISO 6400 with next to no noise (I've never tried 12800). Did I mention near silent shooting? No menu trauma, either...although the 'menu jump' from 60D to 5D3 was mostly familiar for me, there were a bunch of new settings to learn as well.

Hey, it's your money. Feel free to spend it any way you choose.

 

[runnah]

So you're thinking of switching to Nikon, huh? Well let me ask you this. Are you prepared to (or do you already) wear socks with your sandals?

I will have you know I wear Crocs rather than sandals!

 

[Solarflare]

Well, in a more ideal world, Canon and Nikon and Pentax and Sony/Minolta would all produce lenses for the same mount.

So we could freely choose which lenses we want and which camera bodies we want. There is NO technical reason why you need new lenses when buying the camera from a different company.

However, and thats the sad reality, these camera companies ALL have their own mount. Changing from one company to another is quite frankly a huge hassle. Unless one has REALLY good reasons to do it, I would recomment against it.

About the D3s, the reason why Canon is so far behind in respect to low ISO is that they insist on producing all their sensors themselves, and their sensor factory is like 10 years old now, which is kind of ancient for digital technology. HOWEVER, in 2014 or 2015 they will have their new factory ready, and at that point Canon hopefully should improve in respect to low light.

So yeah, I would recomment against it. Canon seems to have more noise, but they also have really good noise reduction software in their cameras.

 

[Dao]

Just want to comment on the overstockdigital.com. If I am going to buy camera gears or even a flash memory card, I do not think I will consider buy them from that place.

The address posted in their website appear to be inside a hotel (search that address in maps.bing.com). The domain name overstockdigital.com was registered from Godaddy.com and using private information (hide their true identity). Normal operation do not do that in fact, legit business want to provide more information. And the domain name was first registered on Oct 2011, so it is kind of new.

There are people from other forums reported them as bait and switch type operation. Typical scam operation. Place an order, they will call you back to confirm order, and from that point the fun begin.

That is the reason why the price there are low.

 

[JacaRanda]

So you're thinking of switching to Nikon, huh? Well let me ask you this. Are you prepared to (or do you already) wear socks with your sandals?

:smileys:

 

[Gavjenks]

Well, in a more ideal world, Canon and Nikon and Pentax and Sony/Minolta would all produce lenses for the same mount.

Note that if you shoot manual, then Canon and Sigma are awesome in terms of standardization (sort of), because you can adapt many other companies' lenses to them without optical correction, including Pentax, Nikon, M42, Olympus, Leica, and T-mount, using $10-$20 adapters.

Not very relevant for most people, though, shooting digital autofocus, etc., because if it's not the same brand, and wasn't made for that mount, you won't get any electronic control.

Sony SHOULD have a lot of adapter potential, but I can't seem to actually find many adapters for sale for them.

 

[raventepes]

So you're thinking of switching to Nikon, huh? Well let me ask you this. Are you prepared to (or do you already) wear socks with your sandals?

I will have you know I wear Crocs rather than sandals!

So you're modernized!! lol