Controversial?

[vtf]

Like this one...

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Always a crowd pleaser:cheer:

 

[kundalini]

My class got commissioned* by the MET police to create some work of the borough to put inside their jail to 'brighten it up'.

I didn't turn up to the pitch because I don't fancy my work being put up inside a prison to be looked at by criminals - what would i get out of that?

Now my classmate is mad at me because he thinks i should be 'greatful' that i'm being commissioned* to show my work. My responce was that THEY [the MET] should be greatful to us because [and here in lyes the reason behind the asterix] they're not actually paying us, they're bumming free work off of students and paying a few bob towards any materials we might need should we run out.

Am I being a pretentious and up myself or do i have a valid point? I feel pretty **** now because he's making me feel like an outcast but I don't know who else turned up and I'm just worried that I've ****ed up, professionally n it might affect my credentials...?

I stopped reading here and could care less what the other responses are.

You're a beginner, from what I've gathered. People incarcerated are just people for the most part. The only difference is that they got nicked.

Shame on you for riding your horse so high. It's a long fall to the floor.

/end because this pisses me off.


BTW, grateful is what I think you are intending.

 

[Derrel]

MET is the Metropolitan Museum of Art. At least that is who commissioned the students.

The MET's income from last year

Income Statement (FYE 06/2009)

Revenue Primary Revenue $175,057,041 Other Revenue $143,997,613 Total Revenue $319,054,654 Expenses Program Expenses $296,700,720 Administrative Expenses $45,388,550 Fundraising Expenses $9,489,974 Total Functional Expenses $351,579,244 Payments to Affiliates $0 Excess (or Deficit) for the year $-32,524,590



They really are not rolling in the dough.

The MET spends millions each year to stand up for artists and promote all sorts of art programs around the country.

Uh, maybe THAT incredibly massive failure is why your answers were so self-righteous.....naw...

The MET is the OP's case is the greater London police department...Metropolitan Police Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geeze...reading comprehension,dude...

 

[Derrel]

Do you have a free rate for rapists, muggers, drug dealers, pimps,car thieves, and child abusers? I'm sure they'd like a lovely resort cabin for free. I laughed at you trying to tell somebody what "the right thing to do is".

Jails are not waiting rooms or hotel lobbies...they're fricking JAILS. What is next chito? Should the MET hit up some furniture stores for some lovely matching sofa and ottoman sets? Maybe ask for some really nice linens from Bed Bath and Beyond's UK counterpart? perhaps lay in a stock of delicious California white zinfandel for those prison meals? Maybe get Gordon Ramsey's TOp Chef people to provide a months worth of delicious, FREE holiday meals for the Christmas season? Should the MET put the touch on a custom builder to re-design some jail cells into lovely suites for the prisoners?
I mean, "it's the right thing to do."

Dude, LIGHTEN UP!!!! I think we get your point, and I can understand being passionate about it, BUT...

Look at his response above,,,he thought the MET was the Metroplitan Museum of Art...in the USA...the OP is in London, England...I'm not sure that "he" got my point....it took another 20-25 posts before he figured out what he was rambling on about...so when you said ,"I think we get your point", uh, no "we" did not "get" the "point"..."we" were about 6,000 miles off the point...

 

[kundalini]

Derrell, as we both know, it's a big world out there. Some people have a much smaller radius for comparison sake. Settle. Agreed, but settle.

 

[Ron Evers]

Well, I have read through the whole thread. Firstly it was clear the op was talking about the London police (no I am not a Brit). So, I found chito's post off the mark & offensive to the op in that he was assuming he had the right to judge character. Therefore, I considered his post not worthy of a response. I certainly was sympathetic to the OP. But now the thread continued & I was less than impressed with some of the folk here that I normally respect. As entertaining as threads of this sort might be to vacuous viewers, I find them disturbing.

To the OP, I neither agree or disagree with your decision but I applaud you for taking a stand on YOUR principals.

 

[Light Artisan]

Let's all grab our cameras and sing Skip to my Lou and forget about this one.

 

[Heck]

If your not feeling it then don't do it and don't let others make you feel bad about your personal decision. This reminds me of a prison art story. Salvador Dali gave Rikers Island prison a work of art to hang in the lobby. It was stolen and replaced by a fake by one of the guards lol.. It was valued at around 100 grand. How ironic.

 

[Blake.Oney]

Well, I probably wouldn't do this, but you could always tell Mark Lebon that you'll do it if he does.

You're not a bad person. If anyone says you are then they are double bad for every single charity they have ever turned down whether it be giving a dollar for cancer at wal mart or free photography.

 

[ChevyBaby]

My class got commissioned* by the MET police to create some work of the borough to put inside their jail to 'brighten it up'.

I didn't turn up to the pitch because I don't fancy my work being put up inside a prison to be looked at by criminals - what would i get out of that?

Now my classmate is mad at me because he thinks i should be 'greatful' that i'm being commissioned* to show my work. My responce was that THEY [the MET] should be greatful to us because [and here in lyes the reason behind the asterix] they're not actually paying us, they're bumming free work off of students and paying a few bob towards any materials we might need should we run out.

Am I being a pretentious and up myself or do i have a valid point? I feel pretty **** now because he's making me feel like an outcast but I don't know who else turned up and I'm just worried that I've ****ed up, professionally n it might affect my credentials...?

I stopped reading here and could care less what the other responses are.

You're a beginner, from what I've gathered. People incarcerated are just people for the most part. The only difference is that they got nicked.

Shame on you for riding your horse so high. It's a long fall to the floor.

/end because this pisses me off.


BTW, grateful is what I think you are intending.

yeah i thought 'greatful' didn't look right...

I dunno if i class as a beginner in the way you're trying to imply, i've been doing photography since i was 16 but i think this is a moral thing in my mind, i have no horse, just no confidence in my work when put in this situation...

 

[enzodm]

tirediron, again that was my theory, if someone murders someone, rapes someone, burgles someone's house etc.... i just don't think they deserve to spend the time in their cell happy - it's bad enough they're having TVs. Don't get it.

But you justified this theory with the fact you are not paid, something different.

Anyway, depending on your specific law, prisons are not always punishment places but also correctional places, where people can be put in the hope of making them better (first time you will be put in jail because drunk we will discuss this again ). A civil surrounding may help for this aim.
Of course, although I'm not with you, you have the right to believe all such bad people do not deserve your beautiful art; but please do not mask this thought with commercial considerations. If UK is like Italy, public institutions are not having much to spend in extra things. These kind of actions are often done by charities working with prisoners to help them in coming back to society.

 

[ChevyBaby]

LOL i dont drink so i wont get there! but maybe for running someone over on a bad day, i swear, driving is a nightmare on a rainy night.

I had never thought about it being a correctional facility though... i'm starting to reconsider and just put somethin together for fun, if i like it i might offer it up. I just have many issues with it both personally, morally and speaking of my own belief in myself and my work.

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

She spells pretentious correctly, but not, grateful, response, or asterisk, most "peculier"

Yeah, I think you should take this as a way for exposure. Sure inmates might not give you any business, but corrections officers, lawyers, wardens, doctors, civilian staff, etc that see your work, may.

I will add though, that its your work. If you don't want to do it, at the end of the day its your call not anyone else's.

 

[ChevyBaby]

LOL goonies, my English Language went downhill after primary school for some reason!

 

[point-&-shoot]

i completely agree with your decision. i would do the same thing. i have no respect for those who have no respect for not only laws but others. why would i give them a gift? why would i want to brighten up their lives? prison is a joke, they have it to easy IMO. i hope you stick with your decision.
kyle