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[Bram]

I like them a lot, and the fact that you know the history and knew what pics to take to make the place very real to people like me who never heard of it. Thanks for both chic! :thumbup::thumbup:

You've never heard of the Holocaust? Or of Dachau, or of Auschwitz?

 

[ChevyBaby]

You shot that with your FM2? Such a badass camera... is it chrome or all black? I have a chrome FE2
What film did you shoot it on?

I think the black and white was a good choice for the dark subject matter. Exposure looks good - nice job if you developed it yourself.

I wouldn't have known it was Auschwitz if you hadn't said so. You mentioned the torture poles, I'm assuming that was the intended subject, but they are overpowered by a contrasty and interesting background (the wall) and the bright left side of the frame (along with the people) really pull attention away as well.

For the record, I personally don't dislike anyone on the forums - at least not that I can think of.

Yeah, my trusty FM2 i do beliiieeve, it's all black coz im cool like that.
At the time i was obsessed with HP5 film so i just took a pack of 30 films out there.

I appreciate the feedback - my eye always gets drawn to the closed off windows too. i should look back through all my negs and put some more up, i have a video i made but i dunno if it's worth postin up here lol, its bout ten mins long.

And thanks for not dislikin me, u were the first person i took a shine to on here :blushing: your humour makes me chucklezzz

 

[Bram]

Chevy you mentioned you have a video? Would you be able to PM me the link? I would love to see it.

 

[ChevyBaby]

I like them a lot, and the fact that you know the history and knew what pics to take to make the place very real to people like me who never heard of it. Thanks for both chic! :thumbup::thumbup:

Nikon, by the time i'm done with you, you'll know toooo much about it - i'm sure when bram sees this he will enlighten you some. lol xx

 

[ChevyBaby]

Chevy you mentioned you have a video? Would you be able to PM me the link? I would love to see it.

i currently don't have it online but ill attempt to upload it now - in the meantime, keep yourself ocupied with this one.....



hopefully you can view this in your country. when i presented this to my family and friends in the exhibition everyone cried, it was so embarrassing lol (altho its probly more to do with the music than the crappy pics )

 

[Bram]

Thank you so much forp osting that I am currently at work for another hour so I will dfinately go home and view this. Thanks again. I will definately fill Nikon in on what he wants to know.

 

[NikonNewbie]

I like them a lot, and the fact that you know the history and knew what pics to take to make the place very real to people like me who never heard of it. Thanks for both chic! :thumbup::thumbup:

You've never heard of the Holocaust? Or of Dachau, or of Auschwitz?

Holocaust yes...Dachau or Auschwitz...no...and it could totally be my fault, I was not a studious person in High School. But then again, my high school probably didn't teach us about it...

 

[Overread35]

My own impression of this photo is that, alone, it says nothing to me. Without the context of knowing where it was shot and what is being shown it has no emotional content or aspect to it - it could be hooks for hanging baskets or braces of pheasants on.

Further I'd say that if emotion was your intent then alone this photo lacks emotional content - ot me I just don't get any feeling of emotion out of the shot. It's slipping (to my eyes) into that deadly grey area of record vs snapshot. The backgound is a little distracting in the lower left side, some hints at conetent, but nothing firm; whilst the blackand white along with the apparent snow and winter condition of the trees does however give a cold empty feel.

Now I think as part of a series of documentary shots with a context and written description this shot can be given meaning - like above it would then fit into what I would class as a record shot. Its recording a sight, but not trying to pull out emotions into the shot in anyway (that would have to be done with the writing and the shots before and after this one).

 

[Bram]

Hmm see I find that a total shame. There was a high school teacher in Alberta, was teaching his students that the Holocaust never happened, that somebody created the photos in photoshop. This lead to an outroar in the district and this man was charged with several things. I do not remember the mans name but i'm sure if you google it you would find it.

The Holocaust was an attempt at Genecide, some say THE man was successful others not so much.

 

[ChevyBaby]

My own impression of this photo is that, alone, it says nothing to me. Without the context of knowing where it was shot and what is being shown it has no emotional content or aspect to it - it could be hooks for hanging baskets or braces of pheasants on.

Further I'd say that if emotion was your intent then alone this photo lacks emotional content - ot me I just don't get any feeling of emotion out of the shot. It's slipping (to my eyes) into that deadly grey area of record vs snapshot. The backgound is a little distracting in the lower left side, some hints at conetent, but nothing firm; whilst the blackand white along with the apparent snow and winter condition of the trees does however give a cold empty feel.

Now I think as part of a series of documentary shots with a context and written description this shot can be given meaning - like above it would then fit into what I would class as a record shot. Its recording a sight, but not trying to pull out emotions into the shot in anyway (that would have to be done with the writing and the shots before and after this one).

I'll upload the video - although ive just found the video and its not the original so its not got the documentary of my family speaking on it about our findings and the history so again, for you, it may come across as conceited or emotionless but i absolutely LOVE what you said [the bolded bit of the quote] because that is exactly how i described being infront of them when i got back home. i touched the hook and realised what id just touched n burst into tears.

Thanks for the critical feedback aswell, much appreciated! These are all things i can improve on when i go back x

 

[NikonNewbie]

Thank you so much forp osting that I am currently at work for another hour so I will dfinately go home and view this. Thanks again. I will definately fill Nikon in on what he wants to know.

YES...now that I'm grown (and a woman..thanks very much :lmao I actually care and like to learn about things that happened in history, I wish back in the 70's they knew about a.d.d. I might be smarter today!:lmao:

 

[ChevyBaby]

Bram, i'm not sure im about to use the right word but i feel liberated that ive finally found someone as passionate about this subject as i. it's surprising how many people dismiss it or argue that Hitler was a 'good' man or 'misunderstood' i had a friend who had this discussion with me and i haven't spoke to him since that night a year ago.

Here's the video (slideshow really) with the haunting and notorious 'holocaust music' from Symphony of Sorrowful Songs.

 

[Bram]

The following is my OPINION:

I personally think that if we do not know our history, that we ourselves are doomed to repeat it. I believe it is a famous quote and I strongly stand by it. People who do not know the HUGE impact that the Holocaust along with WWII had on the European nations and the world. I believe the school system needs to be alterd if that's true.

 

[Bram]

Thanks again for the video posts.
Also this addition, people that deny, or do not believe, I will show you a photobook from my grandfather that he himself took, with the camera he showed me. You will cry.

 

[Overread35]

I feel that the last two shots in that presentation don't really fit with the rest of it
Well taken I won't deny that, but deserving of their own series and separate from the main display - they just don't mix well.

Also some of the latter shots of items were a little ambigious or felt again, to my eye, to be snapshotty (its a horrible word to use I know but it sums up the feeling I get). I'd also say play around with having your horizons offcentre - a fair few of your shots have a distinct landscape orientation, but with equal sky and land with the divide in the middle - try toying with having that dividing line higher and lower (on the "rule of 3rds" lines if you will).
If I might also pick out the photo of a photo - this was a strange shot since the photo in the photo is looking to the right; the focus and attention is toward the right from the photo; yet the shot has far too much empty/dead content on the left side. I would have said a stronger composition would be to have taken a step to the right and get the shot looking more at the viewer, not head on, but a little more and also to lessen the content of the area behind the photoframe