Dare I ask for CC?

[Bram]

Truely amazing Video, I am definately going to show some of my family if that's okay with you? Some of these images reach out to me I will check back another day on this thread to post my true comments and feelings abotu certain photos simply too much right now to express. After all I do have to leave town for school for a couple days, therefore the delay. Thanks again and I urge you all to check the issue out if you don't know it and if you're interested. PM ME!

 

[c.cloudwalker]

Well, it doesn't really matter to me which is the right video to watch. You asked about a photo and if your photo needs a video to make sense then, it ain't much of a photo...

Your photo needs to tell its story by itself.

 

[ChevyBaby]

Aww Bram you're too kind lol that's ok with me :blushing: you could teach me a lot about the holocaust that i don't know, i don't know where to start our discussion though! lol

 

[ChevyBaby]

Well, it doesn't really matter to me which is the right video to watch. You asked about a photo and if your photo needs a video to make sense then, it ain't much of a photo...

Your photo needs to tell its story by itself.

I guess i could never do that in this particular case, what else could i have done do you reckon?

 

[c.cloudwalker]

Aww Bram you're too kind lol that's ok with me :blushing: you could teach me a lot about the holocaust that i don't know...

So could I it seems. But I'm not asking for a date, lol. I'm out of here and leaving you guys alone

 

[Blake.Oney]

To convey horror with that subject I keep seeing in my mind this shot from really low with a wide-ish angle. You know how someone in say, a movie is being drug to something they dread and when they get to it, it looks huge? I'm seeing something like that. Something that is daunting I guess. Haha it's hard to explain, but I hope you get it.

Also, there is a London and a Paris in Kentucky.

 

[ChevyBaby]

To convey horror with that subject I keep seeing in my mind this shot from really low with a wide-ish angle. You know how someone in say, a movie is being drug to something they dread and when they get to it, it looks huge? I'm seeing something like that. Something that is daunting I guess. Haha it's hard to explain, but I hope you get it.

Also, there is a London and a Paris in Kentucky.

I get it. I wasn't thinking of horror i was thinking of despair, i think that's where i've gone wrong.

 

[ChevyBaby]

Aww Bram you're too kind lol that's ok with me :blushing: you could teach me a lot about the holocaust that i don't know...

So could I it seems. But I'm not asking for a date, lol. I'm out of here and leaving you guys alone

oh... harsh. really harsh.

 

[Overread35]

To convey horror with that subject I keep seeing in my mind this shot from really low with a wide-ish angle. You know how someone in say, a movie is being drug to something they dread and when they get to it, it looks huge? I'm seeing something like that. Something that is daunting I guess. Haha it's hard to explain, but I hope you get it.

Also, there is a London and a Paris in Kentucky.

I get it. I wasn't thinking of horror i was thinking of despair, i think that's where i've gone wrong.

I think a greater part of the "problem" is that you've allowed your own emotions connected to the place and subjects to overcome your more general emotions. Thus instead of seeing the shots plain and impartial to view their own emotional content you keep thinking of the place itself and what it means to you before you're even viewing the photos (both at the composition taking stage and now in the aftermath of reviewing them).

This can lead to a false feeling of emotion because you're making connections and links outside of the photos content itself - thus when you show it to others they are giving a different response because they are not already emotionally attached.

It's a bit similar to how, photographically/artistically, poor shots of ones friends/family/pets/homes can bring out more of an emotional connection even though to an outside they only look like snapshots.

 

[ChevyBaby]

To convey horror with that subject I keep seeing in my mind this shot from really low with a wide-ish angle. You know how someone in say, a movie is being drug to something they dread and when they get to it, it looks huge? I'm seeing something like that. Something that is daunting I guess. Haha it's hard to explain, but I hope you get it.

Also, there is a London and a Paris in Kentucky.

I get it. I wasn't thinking of horror i was thinking of despair, i think that's where i've gone wrong.

I think a greater part of the "problem" is that you've allowed your own emotions connected to the place and subjects to overcome your more general emotions. Thus instead of seeing the shots plain and impartial to view their own emotional content you keep thinking of the place itself and what it means to you before you're even viewing the photos (both at the composition taking stage and now in the aftermath of reviewing them).

This can lead to a false feeling of emotion because you're making connections and links outside of the photos content itself - thus when you show it to others they are giving a different response because they are not already emotionally attached.

It's a bit similar to how, photographically/artistically, poor shots of ones friends/family/pets/homes can bring out more of an emotional connection even though to an outside they only look like snapshots.

Ooooh i never thought of it like that, thanks.
cloudwalker was harsh n its got my back up now, feel a bit hmmm about my work :-/

 

[Overread35]

Ooooh i never thought of it like that, thanks.
cloudwalker was harsh n its got my back up now, feel a bit hmmm about my work :-/

Watch this - all the way through - zarias.com :: The blog of editorial photographer Zack Arias Transform :: A short film for ScottKelby.com

You won't know it all now - no matter how good your teachers or inspiration are there is always more to learn and improve upon. Take each bit of given advice and learn to step back from your work.

Surely you've done small critiques and group work with others in your year/class - if not try here and in other sites - being critical and critically viewing others work -seeing the bad and the good and coming to understand why certain parts are good/bad (to yourself as well as others) is a massive learning tool.
Once you've learnt it turn it onto your own work - you have to be able to stand back and disconnect at times otherwise you'll never be able to properly evolve and advance. Furthermore it lets you see that others aren't most times insulting you nor your art but more trying to show their thoughts - and yes oftimes people will disagree with your viewpoint and what you try to show.

 

[Bram]

I think that if somebody knew what this was and knew the history of, they would immediately be convinced that this is a very emotional photo. If you don't know what this resembles then i guess your opinion isn't valid if that makes sense.

What i'm trying to say is take macro for example. If you don't know what it is, or how it's done how can you C&C? Same with this I guess in a way, if you don't know what it resembles, then what's the point of trying to assist the OP. I'm not trying to come off as harsh, or as an a$$, If I do please accept my apologies.

 

[Overread35]

A photo that carries no emotion of its own can't hope to convey any even with understanding of what the content is since any emotion felt at that point isn't from the photo, but from the subject itself. In other words its saying that the emotional content of the photo itself is flawed. This is a problem for a photo who's creators intent was an emotional response to the content.

 

[Bram]

Very understandable, from my point of view, knowing what this resembles to me is more powerful then the image yes I agree with you there.

@OP

As promised my contribution to the thoughts on "The Final Show" 2:32, By far one of the best photots that really stood out, the double barbwired electronic fences. Very powerful photo. Then 2:45 right after also very powerful to me personally knowing whoever tried to escape would either have been shot before the first fence or at the second. Knowing people tried and got shot attempting to escape is horror in itself to me. Also 3:00 is beautiful with the DOF and the buildings in the background. I don't know if 5:03 is a self portrait persay, but I do find it very powerful. To whoever doesn't know what "Arbeit Macht Frei" means, "Work will set you free". Work Loberates. Ofcourse a very false statement.

 

[reznap]

For the record, I personally don't dislike anyone on the forums - at least not that I can think of.

Lies. You know we hate each other. :lmao:

Damn right.