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Feedback requested: first female model shoot (skimpy outfit warning)

:raisedbrow: Charlie actually gives really great advice, the only way to get better is to embrace both the positive and negative, and to learn from the experienced...
 
I didn't say that the poses were perfect. But they aren't as bad as you guys are making them out to be. In fact, they are a lot better than you make them out to be.
Like e-rose said, this may not be your cup of tea, but if you are going to critique, you have to do it without bias. Also, just because you read somewhere that shooting at an upward angle makes a woman look less feminine, doesn't mean it's true all the time. It's also an empowerment angle. And it can be used for women as well. And I'll tell you, you don't think these poses are feminine, but they certainly aren't masculine.

I actually had reasons for avoiding angles that might make her seem more submissive, the upward angles were a deliberate decision on my part.
 
I dont think you can blame it on the photographer 100%. Based on her outfit she chose to wear and the location, I think it was destined to fail. If I was shooting her, I would have encouraged her to wear something that someone would wear at home, not a dancer outfit. Why cant she wear lingerie or something? I dont get it.

There's reasons for the outfits that I don't want to go into here, actually. But that's a subjective thing. I'm looking more for feedback on the technicals and less on whether people find the model or her attire attractive.

There's a lot of old fashioned and very one track minded members on here. The best thing you can do is nod and smile. Let them say their peace, and they'll move on. Otherwise, they'll trash and derail your thread with their "Only the way I shoot is right" mentality, insult you for not agreeing with them, and then you'll be on the fast track to a closed thread.
 
:raisedbrow: Charlie actually gives really great advice, the only way to get better is to embrace both the positive and negative, and to learn from the experienced...

In the interests of keeping it civil, I'll simply say I agree to disagree.
 
I dont think you can blame it on the photographer 100%. Based on her outfit she chose to wear and the location, I think it was destined to fail. If I was shooting her, I would have encouraged her to wear something that someone would wear at home, not a dancer outfit. Why cant she wear lingerie or something? I dont get it.

There's reasons for the outfits that I don't want to go into here, actually. But that's a subjective thing. I'm looking more for feedback on the technicals and less on whether people find the model or her attire attractive.

There's a lot of old fashioned and very one track minded members on here. The best thing you can do is nod and smile. Let them say their peace, and they'll move on. Otherwise, they'll trash and derail your thread with their "Only the way I shoot is right" mentality, insult you for not agreeing with them, and then you'll be on the fast track to a closed thread.

I think you're right. Perhaps I should've posted my request for feedback on another forum that I post on, that separates its critique forums into beginner, intermediate, and advanced categories.
 
:raisedbrow: Charlie actually gives really great advice, the only way to get better is to embrace both the positive and negative, and to learn from the experienced...

In the interests of keeping it civil, I'll simply say I agree to disagree.

Boooooooooriiiiiiing. :sexywink:
 
There's reasons for the outfits that I don't want to go into here, actually. But that's a subjective thing. I'm looking more for feedback on the technicals and less on whether people find the model or her attire attractive.

There's a lot of old fashioned and very one track minded members on here. The best thing you can do is nod and smile. Let them say their peace, and they'll move on. Otherwise, they'll trash and derail your thread with their "Only the way I shoot is right" mentality, insult you for not agreeing with them, and then you'll be on the fast track to a closed thread.

I think you're right. Perhaps I should've posted my request for feedback on another forum that I post on, that separates its critique forums into beginner, intermediate, and advanced categories.

There *IS* a beginners category here...
 
They all feed in together and IMO they are all technical aspects. You can have a perfectly lit image, with perfect exposure but if the content is not there the shoot is a fail.

What I don't understand is, why these critique threads of people who are clearly learning, are approached with such strict and forceful opinions. To call a shoot a fail because he's not great at posing, is a bit pretentious.
We all start from somewhere.
 
There's a lot of old fashioned and very one track minded members on here. The best thing you can do is nod and smile. Let them say their peace, and they'll move on. Otherwise, they'll trash and derail your thread with their "Only the way I shoot is right" mentality, insult you for not agreeing with them, and then you'll be on the fast track to a closed thread.

I think you're right. Perhaps I should've posted my request for feedback on another forum that I post on, that separates its critique forums into beginner, intermediate, and advanced categories.

There *IS* a beginners category here...

I know, and they don't allow critiques there anymore. That's where I think the forum went wrong.
 
Good grief dude, why even ask what people think if you only want the opinions that mirror your own?
 
I think you're right. Perhaps I should've posted my request for feedback on another forum that I post on, that separates its critique forums into beginner, intermediate, and advanced categories.

There *IS* a beginners category here...

I know, and they don't allow critiques there anymore. That's where I think the forum went wrong.

Dafuq? Since when? Where the hell was I when that happened?
 
Good grief dude, why even ask what people think if you only want the opinions that mirror your own?

C'mon, are you new to real life? Not everyone that disagrees with you, does it with the intention to help you improve, or are even right in the first place.
 

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