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First Newborn shoot tomorrow!!! Help!

Babies smell the mother's breastmilk and are less likely to cooperate.

What if the mother isn't breast feeding her child? Is it the same deal?

(If any of these questions come off as me sounding like a smartass... I absolutely do NOT mean it to... I'm genuinely curious as to how these shoots work, haha).
 
e.rose said:
What if the mother isn't breast feeding her child? Is it the same deal?

(If any of these questions come off as me sounding like a smartass... I absolutely do NOT mean it to... I'm genuinely curious as to how these shoots work, haha).

Under 10 days the mom will still be producing breast milk - even if she's not breastfeeding.

But just the smell of their mom will do it, usually.
 
Babies smell the mother's breastmilk and are less likely to cooperate.

What if the mother isn't breast feeding her child? Is it the same deal?

(If any of these questions come off as me sounding like a smartass... I absolutely do NOT mean it to... I'm genuinely curious as to how these shoots work, haha).

Lol, honestly I'm not quite sure, however I don't think a non-breastfeeding mom's milk dries up before the first two weeks... though someone can correct me if I'm wrong. My son is almost 3 1/2, it's been a while, haha!

Oh, and on the baby flop thing... I would hope that a real pro wouldn't let a baby fall over. Those head on hands poses that I've attempted (and I say "attempted" because the baby was just NOT having it so we moved on.) were composites. Safety first!
 
e.rose said:
Okay... I don't mean to speak out of turn here... I don't have a baby... and I never plan on having a baby... so I don't really know much ABOUT babies... but... wouldn't... letting the baby FLOP... be a *bad* thing?

Or am I just severely misunderstanding what you mean? :lol:

I wouldn't let a newborn baby flop - it'd make me too nervous. I know a few people who take 2 shots and then combine them and remove parents hands.
 
TooShay said:
Lol, honestly I'm not quite sure, however I don't think a non-breastfeeding mom's milk dries up before the first two weeks... though someone can correct me if I'm wrong. My son is almost 3 1/2, it's been a while, haha!

Oh, and on the baby flop thing... I would hope that a real pro wouldn't let a baby fall over. Those head on hands poses that I've attempted (and I say "attempted" because the baby was just NOT having it so we moved on.) were composites. Safety first!

Exactly.

I doubt the parents would be too happy if the photographer let their 5 day old baby flop over.
 
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TIME... lots and lots of time. Patience-newborns do not cooperate!

If you can get the baby without mom first do that. When you start shooting with mom start away from the body-the shots of baby in the hands, etc. Then work towards mom's body. Reason: baby smells mom and she is food which starts the reactions just like Pavlov's dog.
Have mom remove the diaper and just lie baby on the diaper about an hour or so before you arrive so that there are not wrinkles from it on baby's skin.
Probably 85-95% of newborn photography is a trick-you shoot in between crying and feeding and anything else going on. Most newborn "cute" poses are a trick-like the propped up head-mom holds baby's head, count to 3-mom moves and you shoot rapid fire until baby flops.
Shoot on the floor if you can. If you must the sofa is good, but the closer you are to the floor the safer everything is.
Warm your hands!!!! Dress lightly and make sure the room you are shooting in is warm so baby is comfortable.
Shoot the details in between shoots when baby is fussy and feeding or being soothed.


Newborn processing is a whole other story... When you get there come back... You'll need help

Cool thanks for the info, I am not a mum myself so don't really know how long babies sleep for and so forth... I was wondering how they get the propped up head poses, thanks for that! We are in our summer here in Australia and I live in a town that you could say some of our days are like Miami weather.. hot and sticky! So warm shouldn't be a problem.

I will be shooting from the floor (safety first!) and using studio lights no flash..

so this editing... I was going to use photo professional (came with 7D) to change from RAW to TIFF then sharpen and edit in CS3.. is that the norm? Or is there something special I need to know (insider knowledge) :)
As in hot lights? Constant? That's a BIG NO NO with babies and children. That is some dangerous and scary stuff there!!!
 
TooShay said:
Lol, honestly I'm not quite sure, however I don't think a non-breastfeeding mom's milk dries up before the first two weeks... though someone can correct me if I'm wrong. My son is almost 3 1/2, it's been a while, haha!

Oh, and on the baby flop thing... I would hope that a real pro wouldn't let a baby fall over. Those head on hands poses that I've attempted (and I say "attempted" because the baby was just NOT having it so we moved on.) were composites. Safety first!

Exactly.

I doubt the parents would be too happy if the photographer let their 5 day old baby flop over.
C'mon now. Use some common sense here. You aren't propping baby up where they're going to flop over like a fish. We're talking about how babies simply slide out of position within seconds of putting them into position.
 
TIME... lots and lots of time. Patience-newborns do not cooperate!

If you can get the baby without mom first do that. When you start shooting with mom start away from the body-the shots of baby in the hands, etc. Then work towards mom's body. Reason: baby smells mom and she is food which starts the reactions just like Pavlov's dog.
Have mom remove the diaper and just lie baby on the diaper about an hour or so before you arrive so that there are not wrinkles from it on baby's skin.
Probably 85-95% of newborn photography is a trick-you shoot in between crying and feeding and anything else going on. Most newborn "cute" poses are a trick-like the propped up head-mom holds baby's head, count to 3-mom moves and you shoot rapid fire until baby flops.
Shoot on the floor if you can. If you must the sofa is good, but the closer you are to the floor the safer everything is.
Warm your hands!!!! Dress lightly and make sure the room you are shooting in is warm so baby is comfortable.
Shoot the details in between shoots when baby is fussy and feeding or being soothed.


Newborn processing is a whole other story... When you get there come back... You'll need help

Cool thanks for the info, I am not a mum myself so don't really know how long babies sleep for and so forth... I was wondering how they get the propped up head poses, thanks for that! We are in our summer here in Australia and I live in a town that you could say some of our days are like Miami weather.. hot and sticky! So warm shouldn't be a problem.

I will be shooting from the floor (safety first!) and using studio lights no flash..

so this editing... I was going to use photo professional (came with 7D) to change from RAW to TIFF then sharpen and edit in CS3.. is that the norm? Or is there something special I need to know (insider knowledge) :)
As in hot lights? Constant? That's a BIG NO NO with babies and children. That is some dangerous and scary stuff there!!!

I don't have any constant lighting but out of curiosity, why is it dangerous? Are the lights hot enough to burn them if they fell?

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TIME... lots and lots of time. Patience-newborns do not cooperate!

If you can get the baby without mom first do that. When you start shooting with mom start away from the body-the shots of baby in the hands, etc. Then work towards mom's body. Reason: baby smells mom and she is food which starts the reactions just like Pavlov's dog.
Have mom remove the diaper and just lie baby on the diaper about an hour or so before you arrive so that there are not wrinkles from it on baby's skin.
Probably 85-95% of newborn photography is a trick-you shoot in between crying and feeding and anything else going on. Most newborn "cute" poses are a trick-like the propped up head-mom holds baby's head, count to 3-mom moves and you shoot rapid fire until baby flops.
Shoot on the floor if you can. If you must the sofa is good, but the closer you are to the floor the safer everything is.
Warm your hands!!!! Dress lightly and make sure the room you are shooting in is warm so baby is comfortable.
Shoot the details in between shoots when baby is fussy and feeding or being soothed.


Newborn processing is a whole other story... When you get there come back... You'll need help

Cool thanks for the info, I am not a mum myself so don't really know how long babies sleep for and so forth... I was wondering how they get the propped up head poses, thanks for that! We are in our summer here in Australia and I live in a town that you could say some of our days are like Miami weather.. hot and sticky! So warm shouldn't be a problem.

I will be shooting from the floor (safety first!) and using studio lights no flash..

so this editing... I was going to use photo professional (came with 7D) to change from RAW to TIFF then sharpen and edit in CS3.. is that the norm? Or is there something special I need to know (insider knowledge) :)
As in hot lights? Constant? That's a BIG NO NO with babies and children. That is some dangerous and scary stuff there!!!

No not hot lights, unless a soft box and a light with a umbrella reflecting is a hot light? THey are just those big looking energy saving looking globes...
 
I would guess they are. I've been burned by lamps. A baby's skin is more sensitive than my hands.
 
TooShay said:
Lol, honestly I'm not quite sure, however I don't think a non-breastfeeding mom's milk dries up before the first two weeks... though someone can correct me if I'm wrong. My son is almost 3 1/2, it's been a while, haha!

Oh, and on the baby flop thing... I would hope that a real pro wouldn't let a baby fall over. Those head on hands poses that I've attempted (and I say "attempted" because the baby was just NOT having it so we moved on.) were composites. Safety first!

Exactly.

I doubt the parents would be too happy if the photographer let their 5 day old baby flop over.
C'mon now. Use some common sense here. You aren't propping baby up where they're going to flop over like a fish. We're talking about how babies simply slide out of position within seconds of putting them into position.

Still! Can you image telling a first time parent of a ~5 day old baby to just hold them up and let drop when you say "go!" I'm sure it can be done but I'd rather just take the time in photoshop and err on the side of caution. That and I wouldn't want a lawsuit from a sue happy parent saying that I endangered their child and as a result they received permanent brain damage. Lol! Hey, it could happen!
 

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