Help with identification

Heidi Rosser · Apr 27, 2023

Hi, I’m trying to identify this camera.
It’s rather large, I think and oversized European half plate.
Other features are a Houghton circular disk in the side. I can’t seem to find anything with this particular lens and shutter combination by Houghton.
I’m wondering if this is a made up camera or original special order maybe.
If anyone can offer any insight as to what this is, that would be great.

webestang64 · Apr 27, 2023

Koilos shutter info here, plus a list of cameras that used it..... Koilos - Camera-wiki.org - The free camera encyclopedia

vintagesnaps · Apr 27, 2023

Nice camera Heidi! And leave it to Scotty to know... I never heard of it. You two are going to send me down a Dallmeyer rabbit hole...

webestang64 · Apr 28, 2023

Also.....Houghton and Ensign cameras....... Houghton and Ensign - Camera-wiki.org - The free camera encyclopedia

Heidi Rosser · Apr 29, 2023

I think I've finally found out what it is.
A Houghton Folding Klito. I think the earlier ones were made by Krugener (Houghton).
Still haven't been able to find one with Dallmeyer lens though.

webestang64 · Apr 29, 2023

Heidi Rosser said:
Houghton Folding Klito

Found an estimate price guide for that one... Houghton: Folding Klito Price Guide: estimate a camera value

Dany · May 1, 2023

Nice camera.
https://www.collection-appareils.fr/x/html/camera-20382-Houghton_Folding Klito.html

IanG · May 5, 2023

The Carfac lens was a budget version of the Stigmatic for amateur use. I don't have many pre 1920 BJP Almanacs but the 1911 Almanac shoes quite a different front standard for the Klito cameras,and definitely Krugener origin. However, the 1915 Almanac shows the same front standard as this camera, no lenses are listed.

Wartime production would mean Houghton's having to use whatever shutters etc were available. Pre WW1 Houghton's used Beck, Cooke, Zeiss and Goerz lenses, during the war only British lenses were available and used on Houghton cameras.

Ian

Dany · May 5, 2023

The Mc Keown's guide (12th edition) says "Several versions include pre-1910 versions made by Krügener and later ones (beginning c 1912) made in London"