How do you conquer "no trespassing" signs?

thetrue · Dec 31, 2012

Tony either you're reading things out of context or your post isn't directed at me, because clearly you're not referring to what I've stated.

If someone walks through my yard and takes a photo, how does that effect my life? It doesn't. Not even a little. THAT would be the equivalent to what I'm saying.

unpopular · Dec 31, 2012

amolitor said:
Cool, so I can just take any cameras you're not using, or where you're not keeping them maintained to my standard? Sweet. I'll be right over. Some time when you're out.

Don't be ridiculous. Taking photos on land who's property owners abandoned structures, who likely don't pay taxes or insurance and just wait for the tax payers to come and condemn the place and knock it over is NOT the same thing as you snatching up any unused cameras and keeping them!

All I am saying is that land owners do have some responsibilities in this issue. They aren't wholly "innocent victims of trespassing".

Parker219 · Dec 31, 2012

Like this if you think they have over analyzed this WAY too much.

Its simple, if there is a no trespassing sign, get permission or find a new place to take pictures from.

6 pages?!? So far!

thetrue · Dec 31, 2012

Parker219 said:
Like this if you think they have over analyzed this WAY too much.

Its simple, if there is a no trespassing sign, get permission or find a new place to take pictures from.

7 pages?!? So far!

Lol

Rick58 · Dec 31, 2012

True confessions, I've "not seen" more then a few signs in my days. I used to spend a lot of time roaming around the old coal mines in the Pa Coal regions. Most of it is posted by the big coal companies for liability reasons. I certainly know it's illegal to do so, but I've entered on many occasions. I would certainly only do it in locations that have been abandoned for decades, but I realize it doesn't make it any more legal.

unpopular · Dec 31, 2012

I have ZERO sympathy for any property owner who gets butt hurt about trespassing if there is no fence or signs. None at all. I'll leave if approached, but - even if you may not be legally required to in order to enforce - if there's no signs and you're adjacent to an area with public access you better expect to chase off trespassers.

Oh, and BTW - if you shoot at me and I didn't see a sign, you may as well hand over some of your land to me now, because WILL get sued.

SCraig · Dec 31, 2012

I don't conquer "No Trespassing" signs, I respect them.

Mully · Dec 31, 2012

If there are posted no trespassing you can get arrested and property owners do press charges. Here in NC dear hunters think they can go any place they please.... I got threatened one year by several guys with rifles who were on my property.... they were not nice ,I put up signs, they came back I had them arrested and pressed charges for being dicks about it.

unpopular · Dec 31, 2012

Any ideas what the actual penalties typically are, I have a hard time seeing them being shipped off to the big house...

Mully · Dec 31, 2012

I let my pair go with community service ...25 hrs each....the judge wanted to give them 3 months... they have family I could not do that.

unpopular · Dec 31, 2012

Three months?! I guess it was pretty aggravated, being that they came back after you told them to leave, ignoring newly erected signs and threatening you in the presence of firearms.

In Wyoming they had this really great optional program called Land Share, where property owners would get some sort of tax benefits if they permitted limited access. The program is a big success, and opened up a lot of land to the public.

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The general public aren't the only ones who act in a less than ethical way when it comes to land access. There's also a big problem with public land lease holders and adjacent property owners putting up "private property" signs on public land, or locking access gates. I've even heard of ranchers shooing off hunters and hikers at gunpoint on land that they don't actually own.

invisible · Dec 31, 2012

What constitutes "trespassing" varies from province to province here in Canada, and it looks like it varies from state to state in the U.S. as well. Here's a pretty good resource: Trespass Law - US - Thread - Urban Exploration Resource

I assume a no-trespassing sign is a no-go everywhere, with penalties. Penalties can vary wildly from one province/state to the next, so it's key to familiarize oneself with the local trespassing laws. Manitoba trespassing laws are very friendly, so the photo-fun never ends around here. On the other hand, I understand that in some U.S. states the owner has the legal right to shoot you if s/he catches you trespassing don't quote me on this, though.

Jeff, even though most times it's difficult to identify/locate the owner, in my experience it's not uncommon that the owner is the guy who lives right next door. (Then again, I only shoot in the countryside, so I don't know if this is also true in urban areas.) We typically keep driving when we see a no-trespassing sign, but if the property looks really cool then we don't hesitate to knock on the neighbour's door. If they are indeed the owner, they are happy to let you enter their property more often than not, unless they believe it's dangerous. What they love is the fact that a couple guys with cool-looking gear (a tripod is key!) want to photograph their beloved eyesore. Offering them a print of the resulting photo can be a dealbreaker, so keep that card in your backpocket, along with personal cards.

thetrue · Dec 31, 2012

For countryside adventures, I could see that being the case. I'm speaking more of urban and industrial suburban areas though.

The tripod trick, though, may come in VERY handy.