How do you conquer "no trespassing" signs?

[cgipson1]

I'm well insured, I need to be to protect my business, and I have a few layers of legal protection before anyone can get to my bank account with a lawsuit, I understand your argument though Charlie

Unpopular, you do make a good point though, the consequences of your trespassing would outweigh the fact that you trespassed in the first place. And a misdemeanor may actually screw up one if my accounts.....it's a government thing, and they sure do pay

Good point! Even if they are not injured, a trespasser can still be charged and jailed, and have it placed on their permanent record!

And if the land / property owner is malicious, the trespasser can be charged with any damage that has occurred on the property, whether they did it or not! See that happen too!

 

[unpopular]

But maybe it is a GOOD REASON not to trespass??

Perhaps. Like I said, I don't really trespass.

Never said you did! lol!

Anyway. I'm going to go check out this location - not sure if there are any no trespassing signs or not, but it appears at least connected to the park to the north:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=45.807648,+-108.684043

 

[thetrue]

Looks like an interesting spot...what is there?

 

[unpopular]

I've only seen it from above, on the cliffs. I don't really know. It could be a house, it could be a bunker, it could be some old agricultural facility.

Periodically people build houses underneath these cliffs. They like the boulders and stuff. It doesn't seem to occur to them that those boulders weren't just put there that way by god. They fell there. And needless to say, rockslide insurance underneath cliffs bearing 3' wide cracks is a bit pricy. Speaking of lawsuits ... dumb stoner kids smoking weed in abandoned buildings aren't the only ones, recently a boulder crashed through someone's living room and they tried to sue the city. In some of these neighborhoods, it's not a matter of "if" but when. One cliff is sheering at a rate of about an inch/year.

The building is directly on a path that leads to a popular park which ends on W. 70th, so I don't know if it's part of the park or not. Judging by the footpaths, it looks like it's a pretty popular place to explore, though.

 

[thetrue]

Lets see some Fredrico style shots from that place lol

 

[unpopular]

fredrico?

 

[cgipson1]

fredrico?

I think he means Invisible (Federico)!

 

[texkam]

So when taxpayer emergency services have to respond and put themselves at risk to rescue/transport/airlift your trespassing a$$, are you going to reimburse?

 

[unpopular]

Skiing is an unnecessary risk, also. Mountain climbing, tackle football... With common sense and skill, you can explore abandoned places just as safely as any other high risk activity.

 

[thetrue]

Yes, I was speaking of Invisible.

I think that you have a good point. Common sense can play a very important role in if you do choose to explore.

 

[cgipson1]

Skiing is an unnecessary risk, also. Mountain climbing, tackle football... With common sense and skill, you can explore abandoned places just as safely as any other high risk activity.

Except those activities aren't illegal! Trespassing is!

 

[Buckster]

I don't personally violate No Trespassing signs.

If I really wanted to shoot something behind one of those signs, I'd do everything I could to contact the property owner, explain my desire to shoot, and agree to abide by their rules on the property and sign a waiver of liability for them. If I still couldn't get them to agree, I'd move on with my life.

 

[texkam]

With common sense and skill, you can explore abandoned places just as safely as any other high risk activity.

Perhaps, but as the old saying goes .... It's all fun and games until someone loses a wiener. Skiing, mountain climbing, tackle football, are one thing, but when someone has to risk life and limb to haul your sorry a$$ out because you were somewhere you weren't supposed to be, that's when I have a problem. IMHO, get permission or move on.

 

[jim84]

I think some people here are confusing ethics with law. Not the same thing...:er:

Example, 2008... Banks... Legal.... I believe so... Ethical... Yeah right.

With common sense and skill, you can explore abandoned places just as safely as any other high risk activity.

Perhaps, but as the old saying goes .... It's all fun and games until someone loses a wiener. Skiing, mountain climbing, tackle football, are one thing, but when someone has to risk life and limb to haul your sorry a$$ out because you were somewhere you weren't supposed to be, that's when I have a problem. IMHO, get permission or move on.

A ski hill can be a much more dangerous location for a rescue than some abandoned field with interesting tree's the bank repo'd from some broke farmer and slapped a no trespassing sign on.

I am not suggesting violating the no trespassing signs, I am just suggesting some of these arguments are a little silly.

 

[thetrue]

I agree with Jim here. My "no trespassing" subjects - I wouldn't be entering the buildings or anything, I don't even know what might be inside. There's one that looks all beat up and is obviously abandoned, but I like the shape of the building, the whole feel of the scene, and how the overgrown stuff outside looks growing up the building. Most of them I really want to do at night though because they'd look fabulous with 15 or so images stacked.