How much does health cost? rant I guess

[runnah]

This is odd; only men have responded so far.

Anyway, I wish I knew some specifics, but perhaps you should start looking at alternative approaches, such as Naturopathy, etc.

AANP - American Association of Naturopathic Physicians: Natural Medicine. Real Solutions.

Homeopathy,

List of homeopathic preparations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah I won't turn this into a fight but let's just say all of those are as effective as waving a magic wand over an affected area.

 

[runnah]

I agree with runnah - it's more about not taking pills when we don't need them. But sometimes people DO need them and there's not much of a choice. My "woman problems" weren't as severe as yours, maria, but they were still really bad, and sorry, brainy, but if you told me to just stop taking pills when I was in the middle of that pain, I would have aimed my foot right at your gentlemen's sausage

It'd be like trying to take a steak away from a lion.

But I think you should all learn to just tough it out and deal with it.

*runs away*

 

[mmaria]

You CANNOT give up on medicine, because the alternative can have a very short end......Having said that, I have no love for big pharm., but I do understand that without profits, they are unable to research new cures.......are doctors some sort of devine beings?....NO.....but, at least in this country, they study for a very long time to be able to practice their trade....the reason for that is money, but, without Dr's, big pharm, and the entire industry around modern medice, there is only one alternative.....death......I know, I've faced it my entire life.......I am not afraid to die, but there is absolutely no reason to hurry it along.....
I do hope you can receive the healing you need.....my advice is to find a specialist that helps you.....here, I believe the best medical care is received at teaching hospitals.....

I see that you completely understand what am I saying...

I've been to many doctors and after a while I started to research about other solutions because my stomach wasn't able to endure almost any kind of pill any more. So I was trying everything anyone mention, and among else I was literary forced by my health state to change my diet, I quit smoking, I quit drinking alcohol, I meditate, I did yoga, I tried remedies... and so on... I "fixed" a lot, but not this issue.

As for specialists, I've been to 4 different countries and I've seen so many doctors that I can't really put a number on it, and none of their recommendation worked.

I can't give up because so far the only thing I'm left with are painkillers.

 

[pgriz]

My wife used to have very wicked menstrual cramps when she was younger (both prior to childbirth and after), and the various doctors she consulted weren't of much help. There were various tests done to be sure that she didn't have cancer, or a diverted colon, or other possible cause. She also was prescribed various pills, none of which really helped her. The symptoms diminished over time, and essentially stopped with menopause. One of my daughters seems to have the same issues, so perhaps there's a genetic component to this. No easy or obvious solution, unfortunately. However, as my wife muttered while going through one of the episodes: "If a man was feeling this kind of stuff, I'm sure we'd already have the cure within a year!". Hard to disagree.

 

[mmaria]

Maria, what I can say is that maybe you should do some research on the kinds of birth control that are available to you and consider trying this route again. Formulations have changed a lot and they've learned better how to balance the hormones in each pill. I'm not necessarily pushing this solution, but just saying that things have obviously changed since your were 15 and it might be worth investigating.

I was talking about the pills he recommended me this time. I guess I have to try, because I don't really have achoice. I'll try almost everything.

And keep getting second opinions.

yeah... and the third, the fourth... the hundredth... I'm exhausted

Has any doctor ever recommended a surgical treatment?

nope, because everything that could be removed is perfectly healthy

 

[mmaria]

I'm sorry to hear you go through this, sweets.

This is probably a silly question but have you searched the net for other women that are having the same issue as you?

yep... nothing... what works for some didn't work for me... and so on...

I'm sure there is something out there to help you, it's just finding it.

well... I'm running a+out of patience after searching fro the solution for 18 years

 

[mmaria]

I have nothing to offer you, but I will offer you a virtual hug and hope you the best.

c'mon that helps too

 

[runnah]

Sounds like it's just your cross to bear. Some women barely get cramps and others are crippled by it. You can thank your genetics.

Not to be rude but does being "intimate" help or hurt?

 

[sscarmack]

I have nothing to offer you, but I will offer you a virtual hug and hope you the best.

c'mon that helps too

 

[mmaria]

Now onto "lady part" issues: Mmaria, I assume you are taking about heavy, horrible painful menstrual cycles? Please feel free to Private Message Me (is there away to do that on here?) Or ask away on here, I'm not shy! I had a hysterectomy 2 years ago and it was the BEST thing I ever did because I had similar issues! (I have had my children and kept my ovaries Just my two cents into this conversation!

I'm 31. I think I'm too young for that solution.... but... can't say I've never thought about that...

 

[mmaria]

Sounds like it's just your cross to bear. Some women barely get cramps and others are crippled by it. You can thank your genetics.

In my case it has nothing to do with genetics. None of the women in my family, and from both sides were experiencing that much pain.

Not to be rude but does being "intimate" help or hurt?

oh runnah, I appreciate your choice of words but you weren't specific... exactly when being intimate?

 

[runnah]

Sounds like it's just your cross to bear. Some women barely get cramps and others are crippled by it. You can thank your genetics.

In my case it has nothing to do with genetics. None of the women in my family, and from both sides were experiencing that much pain.

Not to be rude but does being "intimate" help or hurt?

oh runnah, I appreciate your choice of words but you weren't specific... exactly when being intimate?

True but it could just be the cards you were dealt.

When? I don't know, after a couple glasses of wine.

 

[mishele]

This is what runnah is talking about...
Happy Sheets
Horizontal Hoolah
The Dirty
Bumpin Uglys
Play Hide The Canoli
The Slap And Tickle
Got it?!

 

[runnah]

This is what runnah is talking about...
Happy Sheets
Horizontal Hoolah
The Dirty
Bumpin Uglys
Play Hide The Canoli
The Slap And Tickle
Got it?!

Ahem, I call it "making love". Of course I am a classy kind of guy.

 

[CameraClicker]

I'm another male, and a retired engineer, not a doctor. So, first I'll offer sympathy. And, some observations.

Pain killers are interesting. I'm familiar with them because of migraine. Both mine and other's. Migraine stops the stomach so few oral painkillers are effective. I don't get many migraines, fortunately. Others in the family have found that taking a lot of painkiller results in a kind of addiction. You get rebound headaches when you stop taking pills for your headache. I imagine taking frequent painkillers for other conditions would result in a similar situation. Getting off the painkiller is an arduous process and we were warned that once off, you have to deal with the pain without painkillers. Taking painkillers again, apparently, puts you back into the old cycle.

Some engineers are good diagnosticians, others not so much. I imagine it is the same with doctors. The body is complex and there are a lot of external factors, food, drink and environment to mention three general classes. The cause of migraines is complicated to determine because it is a mix of physiologic and environmental factors. Many who are prone to migraine have blood vessels that don't dilate properly after constriction. In the general population, drinking coffee, for instance, causes constriction, but after the coffee has been processed, the vessels dilate again. Not so with migraine sufferers. So, you consume something that causes constriction. Later you consume something else that causes constriction, and later still, something else. Eventually your brain figures out it is not getting enough blood, and you get the aura. Your brain then dumps the chemical that dilates your vessels, way too much of it, and your vessels dilate too much, which causes the pain. Often, this means that coffee, tomatoes, wine, and many other things can be traced to one migraine, but aren't obvious causes in other migraines. Some people report that changes in atmospheric pressure can trigger migraine. A few years ago we discovered the steam from boiling a mixture of Chinese herbs can trigger my migraine. We still haven't figured out exactly which herbs.

Anyway, a long way of saying there are many factors affecting you and your condition. Until you have tracked down the relevant ones, you will suffer. Some doctors may be better at helping than others, modern medicine has some amazing diagnostic programs which can help rule out some factors. Your own careful observation of everything, over several months, might be the most helpful.

As someone already said, The Pill comes in many formulations and has changed quite a bit since it was introduced. One formulation may be helpful and another harmful. I don't have any suggestions about determining which might help or harm.