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I WANT A DOG (Part II)

Ditto, ditto and ditto.......(Bytch mynickname)

Iams and Eukanuba are owned by Proctor and Gamble while Science Diet is owned by Colgate.....two of the largest corps in the world and their combined advertising budgets exceed millions. If they pound their products long and hard enough, who’s not going to believe there's good in them???? Research the product first with the dog’s best interest at stake. Beware corn and wheat.

By the way, I feed Bullet: Chicken Soup for Lovers and alternate with Innova.
 
I'll have to see how easily attainable better stuff is, and how easily affordable it is for me. My cats are quite healthy on Iams, so I'm not too terribly worried about using it. I will definitely look into supplementing it though.
 
PetersCreek, can you tell me more about the supplements that you use for your dog? Do you just use raw eggs cracked over the dry food? I'm guessing the yogurt you use isn't the same Yoplait yogurt I buy for myself? And the canned salmon....is it something specifically for dogs, or is it the canned salmon that's next to the canned tuna at the grocery store? Cuz all of those things are very do-able for me. :)
 
core_17 said:
PetersCreek, can you tell me more about the supplements that you use for your dog? Do you just use raw eggs cracked over the dry food? I'm guessing the yogurt you use isn't the same Yoplait yogurt I buy for myself? And the canned salmon....is it something specifically for dogs, or is it the canned salmon that's next to the canned tuna at the grocery store?

Eggs — Yep, I just crack a raw egg over his kibble about once a week. Some folks are nervous about that due to concerns about salmonella but me, not so much. One, Kroger isn't a dawdler. His food is gone in just a few minutes. Two, our eggs are pasteurized, so I have little concern about fresh raw eggs. If your dog turns out to be a dawdler or your eggs aren't pasteurized...and salmonella worries you...you can also give the egg a quick scramble.

Salmon — man, Kroger loves salmon nights, which are on Monday and Thursday. Yep, just get the cheapest canned salmon fit for human consumption. I wouldn't waste money on red or king. Go for the pink salmon. We usually get the Bumble Bee brand but I hear Walmart carries another brand for a bit less than the $2.00 per week we spend on ours. We put it in his bowl, juices and all. Don't worry about the bones. The pressure cooking softens them and they contain beneficial minerals, too. You should start slow and easy, though. It's rich and takes some getting used to for some dogs. SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT: of course, I heartily recommend wild-caught Alaskan salmon. (plug-plug-plug) None of that farmed crap, which will doom your dog to a life of malaise, underachievement, and quite possibly, a career in petty crime. :lol:

Salmon oil — It's my belief that even the premium foods don't provide enough Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids, so we supplement with the salmon and salmon oil. We use Omega Maintenance salmon oil from Arctic Paws. Now, it ain't cheap...especially at the website...but we get it for almost half that price at a local pet food outlet. Fortunately, it only takes 1 to 4 tablespoons per feeding and we don't use it on salmon nights, obviously...so it goes pretty far. Plus, it's made from wild-caught Alaskan salmon. (plug-plug-plug)

Yogurt — It's people yogurt...but it's the plain, unflavored, ungelatinized variety. We usually get Dannon. It's not always easy to find and then, it's usually in the larger containers. If you like yogurt, y'all can share. Just buy some fruit or fruit preserves to mix in to your cup. Kroger gets four heaping spoons on his kibble.

Treats — Nothing wrong with high-quality treats given sparingly. If you use treats for training, though, you can easily give more than pup should have. Most of 'em are the equivalent of junk food after all. We like the turkey jerky treats from Solid Gold. They're the size of a small cracker, and they're easily broken into quarters. He worked just as hard to get that quarter as he did a whole one, so the bag went four times as far.

An even better idea, if you dog is sufficiently food-motivated...use kibble as a training treat. Just grab a handful out of pup's daily allotment and you'll be sure not to overfeed during training. Plus, you don't even have to feel guilty about adding one or two of the "junk food" treats, either.

Re: the raw diet — I know a person in an online forum I frequent who's feeding the raw diet...often called the BARF diet. It's been very, very successful for him but then, it's not for everyone.

Crap...there goes another another book. Hope I helped.
 
Yup, you helped wonderfully. Thanks! I was already planning to try using kibble as a training aid, rather than just treats...though I will throw in a treat here and there. :) Lots of great info! Thanks again! :)
 
Well, it turns out there is a Tractor Supply Company in the town I work in once a week! :D

They do have the Nutro brand...but they also have Diamond, which is rated 3 star! And it's not bad price wise! And the store isn't out of my way in the least (well, once a week it's not, the rest of the time it's an hour out of the way! :lol: )

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=82&cat=5
^^ That's the stuff. :)

EDIT: I wrote the above before reading the review. It doesn't seem like the greatest review, but yet it's 3 star? :scratch:
 
Cory.....since they carry Diamond products, they may also carry Chicken Soup, etc..... it's a better quality food in their line of products.
 
acsonpg said:
Cory.....since they carry Diamond products, they may also carry Chicken Soup, etc..... it's a better quality food in their line of products.

They have what I linked to above, plus a few other similar forumlas, like the puppy formula, and large breed forumla.
 
Great.....if you scroll down on the home>dry dog foods page you'll find a picture and review of Chicken Soup for Dog Lover's Soul...as I said, it too is made by Diamond and is a higher quality than the standard Diamond brand line. Does your Tractor store carry it?

I've been feeding Bullet CS for over 2 years and there is a noticable difference in his coat and overall health. I am now introducing him to the Innova brand to rotate his food for a change of pace in his diet. It's a bit more expensive, but he's my boy!

I guess my point is that the preimium brand foods are a worth while investments regardless of the brand.

Paul
 
acsonpg said:
Great.....if you scroll down on the home>dry dog foods page you'll find a picture and review of Chicken Soup for Dog Lover's Soul...as I said, it too is made by Diamond and is a higher quality than the standard Diamond brand line. Does your Tractor store carry it?

I've been feeding Bullet CS for over 2 years and there is a noticable difference in his coat and overall health. I am now introducing him to the Innova brand to rotate his food for a change of pace in his diet. It's a bit more expensive, but he's my boy!

I guess my point is that the preimium brand foods are a worth while investments regardless of the brand.

Paul

No, they only have what I listed above. They do not have what you are talking about.
 
core_17 said:
No, they only have what I listed above. They do not have what you are talking about.

Tractor Supply does have the diamond foods except chicken soup, which I would love them to get. I can't bring myself to feed diamond foods because of the recall they had. I know they took care of it and they didn't do it on purpose but the possibility of it happening again is in the back of my mind. Maybe I am too much of a worry wart but that is what I am. Chicken soup is made in a different plant which kinds of helps me but that doesn't matter b/c I can't get it anywhere around here.

http://www.turnto10.com/money/5600080/detail.html

I also use the eggs and yogurt as a supplement. You can scramble the egg but then it doesn't give the same benefits as a raw egg. This may sound stupid but when it is nice out, I give the dogs a whole raw egg and let them play with it outside in their kennel. They have lots of fun playing with the egg (who would have thought:lmao: ) and then when it breaks, they eat the egg and sometimes eat some of the shell which is a good source of calcium. When they are done the kennel gets sprayed out and cleaned with vinegar. Not sure how much a smaller dog would have playing with an egg but my big dogs like it.

You can get 32 oz. containers of plain great value brand yogurt at walmart for $1.67, with a small dog, that would last a while. If for whatever reason the dog would be put on antibiotics, give a little more yogurt to help keep the good bacteria in the gut. If you end up with a gassy dog, the yogurt also helps that as well. I give my pups yogurt in their kongs and I also mix the missing link supplement with a little yogurt to give them.

another good supplement, if you can stomach the smell, is green tripe. Solid Gold packages it into a can to make it more convenient. Or you can get it from a slaugterhouse whole and have to cut it up yourself. I personally get it whole and cut it myself but it can be a very tedious and nasty task.

Canned pumpkin, the pure stuff, not the pie filling is also something good to have around. It is good for constipation and the runs if given in the right amounts. Not sure how much that would be for a smaller dog but some reasearch would probably tell you what you need to know.

If for some reason, you need the pup to throw up, peroxide in small amounts works great. For my 80 pound dog I would have to give a tablespoon and then in 15 minutes, if nothing is produced, another tablespoon, I have never had to give any more than that.

I know you were mainly looking for food and supplement information but I thought I would throw the other things in there. I try use as natural things as I can and hate going to the vet unless absolutely needed other than the yearly check-up. Something else you may also want to look into is a vaccination schedule. Most vets over-vaccinate. My pups only get their puppy shots and then after that, they get a titer test to see how high the antibodies are in their system, rabies vaccine could be a problem depending on where you live, some places recognize the titer test and others don't.

Information overload but just wanted to help any one I can, it is amazing how people are misleaded when it comes to their pets health. Good luck.
 
Thanks for the info! :D I think I'll probably go with the Nutro at Tractor Supply.

I went to the shelter to look at the dog I linked to before at the shelter. I LOVE HIM!!!!! He is a bit shy at first, the shelter lady thinks he's been abused a bit...but he warms up to ya after a while. She thinks with proper training and socialization, he'll be fine (I think so too...he's not super scared, just a bit). I played with him for a while, and after he was warmed up to me, I messed with his ears a bit...didn't bother him...so I messed with is paws a tad...didn't bother him...so I gently messed with his tail a lil....he didn't even act like he noticed....so I messed with his mouth just a teensy bit....didn't phase him! :D Then, we put a leash on him and took him up to the cat room to see how he'd do there. He barely noticed em! He was more excited about being in a new room...when we were there for a few minutes, he did go up and sniff the kitty cages a bit, but that's all he did. He didn't lunge at them, or bark or growl or try to get at them...he just sniffed and looked. :D :D :D And he's not as big as I thought he was, which is good! The picture made him look a lil bigger, even though he's listed as medium. :D So...if he's there when I get back from my trip...he's so mine! :D (I'm still gonna look at the dogs at another nearby shelter though...so it also depends on if I find a dog I like more)
 

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