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Tear the image apart as you please, but in a positive manner is all I am saying... Tell everyone how they can improve...not just how they stink...
 
If its really bad, then it irks me enough to speak back.

What's truly concerning is that you can be "irked" by a picture someone posts...

Whats wrong with being irritated when someone posts an image which is clearly so bad, it just defies description. You know, like some of the ones you post.

Well, I would say that commenting on such a photo then speaks to the profound lack of intelligence on the person doing it.

You know, like you do.

There are a few people here whose self-worth and sense of value is directly proportional to how derogatory they can be when commenting on someone's photos. If they're not tearing someone a new one, they feel as though their value is mitigated. That manifests itself by their inability to simply move on and not comment at all. They can't control the urge. The very idea that they might get upset by someone posting a bad photo is alarming, and there's probably even a clinical name for it.

I've seen plenty of their stuff. Some of it's very good.

Some of it blows...
 
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Hello all I just started photography and I joined this site for the CC. I needed it as i know nothing other then point and shoot. Don't hold back tell me whats whats and if others can't take CC then that is their loss not yours. Teach the willing leave the rest.
 
I think it's possible to give C&C without tearing the person apart... Be positive with it...everyone here is here to learn and improve.. no one here wants to deal with a$$holes that bring them down...

Bring them down? Or make them see? OR are they the same thing? I could care less about hurting someones feelings, or "bringing them down".. if it help them to be a better photographer! If they are here for coddling.. they should say so, so I can ignore them! :)
 
pic_chick said:
Hello all I just started photography and I joined this site for the CC. I needed it as i know nothing other then point and shoot. Don't hold back tell me whats whats and if others can't take CC then that is their loss not yours. Teach the willing leave the rest.

Lol! You're in for a treat!
 
If we see really BAD photography.. how ARE we supposed to address that? If we are anywhere near honest... somebody is probably going to get upset?

Someone posted a photo of a car that, frankly, sucked. It was absolutely atrocious. There simply wasn't a single about it that was good.

Now, some folks here see that as blood in the water. They can't control themselves. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they actually feel a degree of sexual gratification by tearing someone else apart.

That's not my opinion, by the way, it actually happens.

Now, my comment was along the lines of "Dude, nothing is working in this photo. It's a compositional nightmare, the white balance needs to be addressed, and the horizon is crooked."

The poster appreciated my comments and, as you might expect, completely ignored the pinheads who were saying "This sucks" and "Why did you even bother posting, this is horrible"...

Are we a teaching forum.. or a kiss and coddle forum?

Is this a teaching forum? I don't recall seeing that as the primary function when I signed up. Perhaps you could be kind enough to direct me to where that's stated...

How do we address somebody else telling a really BAD photographer how great their shots are.. when they AREN'T?

Do you have to? Seriously, do you have to? Is the world going to stop spinning if you don't? Will the world of photography suffer irrepairable damage if you don't?

No, of course not.

Will you get a charge out of telling someone that it sucks? Well, then your comment is being made more for your benefit than anyone else's and, as such, needn't really be shared.

The bottom line is this: there are decent people here, who would truly like to help others progress and imprive in their photography. Then there are the ass-clowns who lack the facility to be helpful and, instead, would rather try to paint themself as some sort of "expert".

Thankfully, such people are both easy to spot and easy to laugh at...
 
If we see really BAD photography.. how ARE we supposed to address that? If we are anywhere near honest... somebody is probably going to get upset?

Someone posted a photo of a car that, frankly, sucked. It was absolutely atrocious. There simply wasn't a single about it that was good.

Now, some folks here see that as blood in the water. They can't control themselves. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they actually feel a degree of sexual gratification by tearing someone else apart.

That's not my opinion, by the way, it actually happens.

Now, my comment was along the lines of "Dude, nothing is working in this photo. It's a compositional nightmare, the white balance needs to be addressed, and the horizon is crooked."

The poster appreciated my comments and, as you might expect, completely ignored the pinheads who were saying "This sucks" and "Why did you even bother posting, this is horrible"...

Are we a teaching forum.. or a kiss and coddle forum?

Is this a teaching forum? I don't recall seeing that as the primary function when I signed up. Perhaps you could be kind enough to direct me to where that's stated...

How do we address somebody else telling a really BAD photographer how great their shots are.. when they AREN'T?

Do you have to? Seriously, do you have to? Is the world going to stop spinning if you don't? Will the world of photography suffer irrepairable damage if you don't?

No, of course not.

Will you get a charge out of telling someone that it sucks? Well, then your comment is being made more for your benefit than anyone else's and, as such, needn't really be shared.

The bottom line is this: there are decent people here, who would truly like to help others progress and imprive in their photography. Then there are the ass-clowns who lack the facility to be helpful and, instead, would rather try to paint themself as some sort of "expert".

Thankfully, such people are both easy to spot and easy to laugh at...

You just made the list, bud! Bye!
 
Add two more to the list of people whose self-worth rests in their ability to be counter-productive...
 
critiq, critiq always on positive side will definitely help to hone up ones own skills
 
Steve5D said:
Someone posted a photo of a car that, frankly, sucked. It was absolutely atrocious. There simply wasn't a single about it that was good.

Now, some folks here see that as blood in the water. They can't control themselves. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they actually feel a degree of sexual gratification by tearing someone else apart.

That's not my opinion, by the way, it actually happens.

Now, my comment was along the lines of "Dude, nothing is working in this photo. It's a compositional nightmare, the white balance needs to be addressed, and the horizon is crooked."

The poster appreciated my comments and, as you might expect, completely ignored the pinheads who were saying "This sucks" and "Why did you even bother posting, this is horrible"...

Is this a teaching forum? I don't recall seeing that as the primary function when I signed up. Perhaps you could be kind enough to direct me to where that's stated...

Do you have to? Seriously, do you have to? Is the world going to stop spinning if you don't? Will the world of photography suffer irrepairable damage if you don't?

No, of course not.

Will you get a charge out of telling someone that it sucks? Well, then your comment is being made more for your benefit than anyone else's and, as such, needn't really be shared.

The bottom line is this: there are decent people here, who would truly like to help others progress and imprive in their photography. Then there are the ass-clowns who lack the facility to be helpful and, instead, would rather try to paint themself as some sort of "expert".

Thankfully, such people are both easy to spot and easy to laugh at...

Very well said :)
 
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