Is Honesty gone? Are we just a kiss and coddle forum now?

[cgipson1]

Just my noob two cents.... I know my images need help. I am not posting for a pat on the back or a thumbs up (although that would be nice if deserved). By kissing and coddling, it takes away from any true accomplishments one has made. I appreciate it when I am told how it is. Now, I am not a glutton for punishment, but I want to get better, and to do so I need HONEST feedback.
Recently I have seen some truly awful images posted and watched and waited for the banter to begin, and all that was given was compliments... whatever. Do your thing Charlie!.. Constructive criticism is always welcome to me. Thank you to all of you experienced photographers lending a hand to us newbies trying to get better. I am a mother of six children and work three different jobs, I cannot afford or find the time for photography courses. YOU are my teachers and I appreciate you!!!

ooooohhhhhh.... you are in for it now! She is fair game now, guys.... no holds barred! lol!

 

[tmjjk]

CRAP

 

[SCraig]

Just my noob two cents.... I know my images need help. I am not posting for a pat on the back or a thumbs up (although that would be nice if deserved). By kissing and coddling, it takes away from any true accomplishments one has made. I appreciate it when I am told how it is. Now, I am not a glutton for punishment, but I want to get better, and to do so I need HONEST feedback.
Recently I have seen some truly awful images posted and watched and waited for the banter to begin, and all that was given was compliments... whatever. Do your thing Charlie!.. Constructive criticism is always welcome to me. Thank you to all of you experienced photographers lending a hand to us newbies trying to get better. I am a mother of six children and work three different jobs, I cannot afford or find the time for photography courses. YOU are my teachers and I appreciate you!!!

YOU do. In fact many do. But you would be surprised how many there are that don't. The "Facebook Pros" show up with what they consider to be National Geographic material and then get annoyed when people don't gush over how great it is. There are so many people with cameras today, all of them with friends and families telling them how great they are, and when their little bubble gets popped they get annoyed. I haven't been around here that long but I've seen it many, many times already. Saw it once yesterday as a matter of fact. Until someone has been around a little while we don't know which category they fit into.

And then there is the group that expect people to immediately comment on their photos, and if it isn't done in what they consider to be a timely manner they get annoyed. Saw that happen yesterday to.

 

[sm4him]

For a start you've lost all inflection of voice and body language. Quips and jokes that you might use in person can fall flat online because you've no smile or chuckle to further communicate the jovial nature.

BUT....BUT...We have EMOTICONS!! That makes it all clear, doesn't it?!?
</humor>

 

[pixmedic]

For a start you've lost all inflection of voice and body language. Quips and jokes that you might use in person can fall flat online because you've no smile or chuckle to further communicate the jovial nature.

BUT....BUT...We have EMOTICONS!! That makes it all clear, doesn't it?!?
</humor>

seriously, who needs vocal inflection when you have

 

[cgipson1]

Just my noob two cents.... I know my images need help. I am not posting for a pat on the back or a thumbs up (although that would be nice if deserved). By kissing and coddling, it takes away from any true accomplishments one has made. I appreciate it when I am told how it is. Now, I am not a glutton for punishment, but I want to get better, and to do so I need HONEST feedback.
Recently I have seen some truly awful images posted and watched and waited for the banter to begin, and all that was given was compliments... whatever. Do your thing Charlie!.. Constructive criticism is always welcome to me. Thank you to all of you experienced photographers lending a hand to us newbies trying to get better. I am a mother of six children and work three different jobs, I cannot afford or find the time for photography courses. YOU are my teachers and I appreciate you!!!

YOU do. In fact many do. But you would be surprised how many there are that don't. The "Facebook Pros" show up with what they consider to be National Geographic material and then get annoyed when people don't gush over how great it is. There are so many people with cameras today, all of them with friends and families telling them how great they are, and when their little bubble gets popped they get annoyed. I haven't been around here that long but I've seen it many, many times already. Saw it once yesterday as a matter of fact. Until someone has been around a little while we don't know which category they fit into.

And then there is the group that expect people to immediately comment on their photos, and if it isn't done in what they consider to be a timely manner they get annoyed. Saw that happen yesterday to.

Yep... and they get CRANKY! lol!

 

[cgipson1]

For a start you've lost all inflection of voice and body language. Quips and jokes that you might use in person can fall flat online because you've no smile or chuckle to further communicate the jovial nature.

BUT....BUT...We have EMOTICONS!! That makes it all clear, doesn't it?!?
</humor>

Only if mixed with the appropriate MEMES! lol!

 

[cgipson1]

For a start you've lost all inflection of voice and body language. Quips and jokes that you might use in person can fall flat online because you've no smile or chuckle to further communicate the jovial nature.

BUT....BUT...We have EMOTICONS!! That makes it all clear, doesn't it?!?
</humor>

seriously, who needs vocal inflection when you have

It depends on if they are cheering for the Noob I am blasting.. or me for blasting them! lol!

 

[pixmedic]

BUT....BUT...We have EMOTICONS!! That makes it all clear, doesn't it?!?
</humor>

seriously, who needs vocal inflection when you have

It depends on if they are cheering for the Noob I am blasting.. or me for blasting them! lol!

they are just cheering for the sake of cheering!

 

[cgipson1]

seriously, who needs vocal inflection when you have

It depends on if they are cheering for the Noob I am blasting.. or me for blasting them! lol!

they are just cheering for the sake of cheering!

Oh.. airheads.. gotcha!

 

[cgipson1]

Interesting discussion so far!! Thanks for all the input, everyone!

 

[pixmedic]

Interesting discussion so far!! Thanks for all the input, everyone!

no problem, thats what were here for!

 

[shefjr]

As a noob I wish I was given more c&c. I notice at times I will get many views but no 2cents. I assume most of my photos are so crappy it's not worth wasting your (all pros) time Oh! And you may come off like an a-hole giving your honest thoughts but, for me personally I don't mind. All are free to take off the gloves.

 

[pixmedic]

As a noob I wish I was given more c&c. I notice at times I will get many views but no 2cents. I assume most of my photos are so crappy it's not worth wasting your (all pros) time Oh! And you may come off like an a-hole giving your honest thoughts but, for me personally I don't mind. All are free to take off the gloves.

careful what you ask for...you might find the gloves were padding the brass knuckles. :mrgreen:

 

[Ernicus]

Read two pages then skimmed. lol.

Just wanted to say, if my chit stinks...tear it up, crumple it up, and throw the soggy wet mess in my face. I don't care.

I don't need sugar coating, I already know what is good in my photos, I need to know the bad so I can improve. Telling me the good does not make the bad easier, it makes me think your a hippie.

I like this sort of critique so that I can feel good about my work the day my post gets accolades. Then I will know I have genuinely done a good job.