Is Honesty gone? Are we just a kiss and coddle forum now?

[skieur]

You know.. it had gotten to where I just ignore certain types of photographers... even though they need the most help!

I ignore them, because I am afraid I will be banned if I am honest.. even if I not rude about it!

Does anyone else feel this way?

If we see really BAD photography.. how ARE we supposed to address that? If we are anywhere near honest... somebody is probably going to get upset?

Are we a teaching forum.. or a kiss and coddle forum?

How do we address somebody else telling a really BAD photographer how great their shots are.. when they AREN'T?

Just curious!!!!

Wake up and smell the coffee! Photography forums have been or are being bought by "facebook" style companies whose main interest is more members, social interaction and SHOWING rather than improving your photos. Check out the company that bought www.photoforum.com, for example.

skieur

 

[cgipson1]

There is a difference between helping people understand how to improve and making someone feel incompetent. You don't have to "kiss and cuddle". But if you show someone respect when offering advise then you will get your point across without pushing people away from the forum.

After your comments in a now closed thread.... I wonder that you actually advocate showing respect to anyone. It wasn't shown to anyone in that thread! Interesting... thanks for your comment!

 

[MonicaBH]

I've been hanging around here for a couple of years, and I've seen some people get real butt hurt and leave from a C&C that didn't go their way.

Here's the thing with me.

When I post images here, I post them because I have already C&Cd them myself, and I'm looking to compare what I think I did wrong with what others see. I post images because I want to learn and get better. Now, true: I only post what I consider to be my very best (and it's not all that great). Not giving honest critiques is as unfair to those of us that want (and NEED) it than lying to a fauxtographer that their FB albums are all top notch.

That being said, I have got to figure out how even get C&C on the few images I post. The C&C I've gotten has been infrequent at best.

Charlie, I say bombs away.

 

[cgipson1]

I've been hanging around here for a couple of years, and I've seen some people get real butt hurt and leave from a C&C that didn't go their way.

Here's the thing with me.

When I post images here, I post them because I have already C&Cd them myself, and I'm looking to compare what I think I did wrong with what others see. I post images because I want to learn and get better. Now, true: I only post what I consider to be my very best (and it's not all that great). Not giving honest critiques is as unfair to those of us that want (and NEED) it than lying to a fauxtographer that their FB albums are all top notch.

That being said, I have got to figure out how even get C&C on the few images I post. The C&C I've gotten has been infrequent at best.

Charlie, I say bombs away.

Yea.. but you are a babe!!! I have to be nice to you! (meant humorously in a non-sexist way, I promise!) <jeez.. I am even posting disclaimers! ARRGGHH!>

Seriously.. I either say nothing... or I say what needs to be said. I will always be honest with those that want it....

 

[nineoneeighttony]

There is a difference between helping people understand how to improve and making someone feel incompetent. You don't have to "kiss and cuddle". But if you show someone respect when offering advise then you will get your point across without pushing people away from the forum.

After your comments in a now closed thread.... I wonder that you actually advocate showing respect to anyone. It wasn't shown to anyone in that thread! Interesting... thanks for your comment!

I find it funny that if I don't filter my mouth and I use choice words it gets reported! Don't expect me to show respect when it is not shown...

 

[pixmedic]

is there really any difference in any other forum? This is my first and only photo forum so...i don't have anything else to compare it to.
how DOES this forum compare to others as far as number of contributing members and content?

 

[KenC]

There isn't a real issue here. Once in a great while someone doesn't like the feedback they get and they get a little huffy. If we then just ignored them they would calm down eventually. But this reaction really is very rare. I comment on a lot of images and I've never had anyone get hostile about any of my comments.

 

[Kerbouchard]

You know.. it had gotten to where I just ignore certain types of photographers... even though they need the most help!

I ignore them, because I am afraid I will be banned if I am honest.. even if I not rude about it!

Does anyone else feel this way?

If we see really BAD photography.. how ARE we supposed to address that? If we are anywhere near honest... somebody is probably going to get upset?

Are we a teaching forum.. or a kiss and coddle forum?

How do we address somebody else telling a really BAD photographer how great their shots are.. when they AREN'T?

Just curious!!!!

I'm not going to bother reading through three pages of drivel. This is a BS thread and you know it. Nobody is going to get banned for giving C&C, not even the "rude" people giving it.

The only hold-back I have is disagreeing with Kerbouchard. George will report you in a heartbeat.

Reported...

Come on...we have to give the mod's something to do. :mrgreen:

 

[Z3phyr]

I'm brand spankin' new to this forum, but I'd much rather someone tell me that my photos are god awful and can be improved by __________ than have everyone respond with "nice," "great shot," or "fantastic photo" when the picture is, in fact, complete garbage. It's a lot easier to find areas for improvement when you have someone with fresh eyes or a different perspective. Brutal honesty is almost essential if the person asking for C&C actually wants to improve rather than use the thread as a thinly veiled attempt to stroke their ego.

 

[o hey tyler]

You know what's gone? My virginity. Since '03.

BOOOM!

 

[dxqcanada]

There are comments, critics, opinions ... it's all in the delivery.

Should we say "it sucks" ... or does it require a "it sucks, because ..." ?

I don't tend to comment on images I do not care about ... we all have our own tastes.

[h=1]&#8220;Those who can't do teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.&#8221; [/h] &#8213; Woody Allen

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Ah, I see the forum is in repeats.
I think I've seen this episode ten times now.

 

[sm4him]

Ah, I see the forum is in repeats.
I think I've seen this episode ten times now.

It's because of the Olympics...EVERY thing is in repeats during the Olympics.
We'll return to regularly scheduled threads after the closing ceremony.

 

[dxqcanada]

... I think we like to hear our own voices heard by others. It makes some feel better.

 

[Ernicus]

instead of "kiss and coddle" how about "azz fuking with reach arounds" ? ?

It's hurts a bit at the start but you at least get to finish off with a smile.