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Everyone complains about "mothers assume every person with a camera is a pedophile."

Well, you folks do the exact same thing in your assuming that every mother assumes a pedophile!

Perhaps people don't want other random people to have photographs of themselves or their children for who knows what reason. Why do you need photos of someone else's children? If you want to take photos of children, go have your own children and take all the photos you want.

What happens to these photos of children? What do you do with them? The children don't mean anything to you, they are not your children. Any more, 9 times out of 10, folks who are into photography for an enjoyable hobby put their photos up on the internet for the world to see.

Is it too much to have a little respect to folks that you don't know and think that perhaps mothers do not want their children's photos taken by some random person and may not want photos of their children up on the internet where anyone in the world has access to that photo? Perhaps it's not the photographer who is the pedofile, but the guy who lived 2 houses down from me surfing Flickr that comes across the photo of my child on your account who is the pedophile. Perhaps it would be within reason that I or my wife would not want the neighbor 2 houses down from me to find a photo of my child playing in the park on your Flickr account.

Yes, there are very disgusting and disturbing people out there in the world. Yes, I was surprised to find out that my neighbor is on the list of pedophiles that they must be registered on. No, that neighbor is no longer there as he passed away a few weeks ago. But, if my living way out in the country, I can find these people living in my general vicinity, then anyone can find them living close by anywhere.

It's not the mothers who you folks assume that they assume pedophile of anyone with a camera that is the problem. It is the photographers who disrespect everyone else and bark about their "rights to photograph anything and anyone" that is the problem. Just leave the mothers and their children alone in peace and go have your own stinkin kids if you feel the need to intrude into other people's enjoyment of the public area.

I get so sick of these threads on the crying of "photographers" about how mothers are suspicious of everyone with a camera. Nope, they just want to be left alone. Public place or not, have some respect for you fellow mankind.
 
I had the misfortune of having to be in downtown Atlanta a few days ago. Naturally, I took the camera for a few shots of the skyscrapers and other city stuff that I rarely see( and do not with so see, for that matter ;) ).

Anyway, I walked the nearly empty streets( everyone was working away inside those big glass towers), I occasionally saw a human being! Lo, and I held up my Nikon to capture their existance...and they...well, they all but ran away from me! Or it. Or...me?
I saw several people outside taking mid-morning smoke breaks, and as soon as I got within 50 ft. of them, poof! - they all bolted inside!

I thought it was rather funny...but I think I know what the problem is...and why a small camera is ok and a big one is not.

For the same reason that driving a Honda around town is unnoticed, but a hot air ballon would draw alot of attention! People are just not used to seeing other people walking around with big cameras and zoom lens' and maybe a camera bag or whatever...unless they are at a sporting event, press conference or photography class!

And now, with alot of people buying the new budget DSLR's ( myself included) there are going to always be more and more people out there having fun, taking pictures and scaring people that are afraid of their own shadows. Or something they don't normally see.


Silly people. If I was a terrorist or an internet porn broker, I'd dress better! :)
 
I'm not interested. This is a tired subject. The real question is how are we as photographers going to change this misconception. We certainly must start at a local level. One person at a time. Maybe moms should be more forgiving with attitudes. Maybe photographers should start introducing themselves. Maybe we should figure out how to work together as a community as opposed to individuals. I am open to suggestions. I refuse to be that sad photographer that says "I remember when".

Love & Bass
 
although people notice photographers more possibly, they also notice anyone else too. My summer internship involves me walking up and down streets in a suburb of St. Paul MN, with a reflective vest and a big book which i write in (street crack data...) Every day so far, i've had at LEAST one person ask me what i was doing. Usually more. They all seem to think I'm a threat to their neighborhood or something. people are getting crazy...
 
Everyone complains about "mothers assume every person with a camera is a pedophile."

Well, you folks do the exact same thing in your assuming that every mother assumes a pedophile!

Perhaps people don't want other random people to have photographs of themselves or their children for who knows what reason. Why do you need photos of someone else's children? If you want to take photos of children, go have your own children and take all the photos you want.

What happens to these photos of children? What do you do with them? The children don't mean anything to you, they are not your children. Any more, 9 times out of 10, folks who are into photography for an enjoyable hobby put their photos up on the internet for the world to see.

Is it too much to have a little respect to folks that you don't know and think that perhaps mothers do not want their children's photos taken by some random person and may not want photos of their children up on the internet where anyone in the world has access to that photo? Perhaps it's not the photographer who is the pedofile, but the guy who lived 2 houses down from me surfing Flickr that comes across the photo of my child on your account who is the pedophile. Perhaps it would be within reason that I or my wife would not want the neighbor 2 houses down from me to find a photo of my child playing in the park on your Flickr account.

Yes, there are very disgusting and disturbing people out there in the world. Yes, I was surprised to find out that my neighbor is on the list of pedophiles that they must be registered on. No, that neighbor is no longer there as he passed away a few weeks ago. But, if my living way out in the country, I can find these people living in my general vicinity, then anyone can find them living close by anywhere.

It's not the mothers who you folks assume that they assume pedophile of anyone with a camera that is the problem. It is the photographers who disrespect everyone else and bark about their "rights to photograph anything and anyone" that is the problem. Just leave the mothers and their children alone in peace and go have your own stinkin kids if you feel the need to intrude into other people's enjoyment of the public area.

I get so sick of these threads on the crying of "photographers" about how mothers are suspicious of everyone with a camera. Nope, they just want to be left alone. Public place or not, have some respect for you fellow mankind.
LOL thus proving the point that every person assumes something pedophilic will happen to the images of their child. Really, some people have self-righteous indignation perfectly pitched.
 
LOL thus proving the point that every person assumes something pedophilic will happen to the images of their child. Really, some people have self-righteous indignation perfectly pitched.

I'm a member of a baby related site and I can tell you there are posts along this line (about pics of children being used on the net ) that happen relatively regularly - Also people reporting other that have used pics of others kids saying they are their own.

There was something actually recently (last 2 days) in the paper on a teacher that was taking pics of his pupils and then photoshopping their heads and his heads into VERY inappropriate pics....
 
I´m new to this forum and want to know if there are any Roland Barthes fans out there. I just finished Camera Lucida and want to know what people think??
 
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I'm a member of a baby related site and I can tell you there are posts along this line (about pics of children being used on the net ) that happen relatively regularly - Also people reporting other that have used pics of others kids saying they are their own.

There was something actually recently (last 2 days) in the paper on a teacher that was taking pics of his pupils and then photoshopping their heads and his heads into VERY inappropriate pics....
There are lots of stories... but does that make everyone a perv?

I ride motorcycles, and all it takes is one non-rider to talk about an accident they know of, and all the others will chime in with horror stories about motorcycling. Yet the majority of riders never get hurt. Should we outlaw motorcycling? Yes, there may be weirdos doing odd things to pictures... does that mean every person with a camera is a perv?

I don't know which to be astounded by more... how tired this story is, or that I'm actually participating in it....
I´m new to this forum and want to know if there are any Roland Barthes fans out there. I just finished Camera Lucida and want to know what people think??
Please start a new thread, you will get a much higer response. I have no idea what you're talking about, but will Google it because the title sounds cool.
 
You can't take pictures at the local pool here in Toronto, Canada

It is also forbidden in a few cemeteries here. Been busted twice for it. Apparently they are right. You need permission to shoot gravestones. :er:
 
It is also forbidden in a few cemeteries here. Been busted twice for it. Apparently they are right. You need permission to shoot gravestones. :er:

Aren't cemeteries private property?
 
There are lots of stories... but does that make everyone a perv?

I ride motorcycles, and all it takes is one non-rider to talk about an accident they know of, and all the others will chime in with horror stories about motorcycling. Yet the majority of riders never get hurt. Should we outlaw motorcycling? Yes, there may be weirdos doing odd things to pictures... does that mean every person with a camera is a perv?

In the states (most of them, anyway), motorcyclsi

Please address the photography issue from the other side.
1. Why would someone want photographs of children that that they don't know?
2. How many photographers
 
Until about ten to fifteen years ago (when the whole pedophilia thing really took off in the media as a favorite non-news "OMG" story) most people perceived children as something pleasantly innocent. Images of clumsy kids on playground equipment was cute, right up there with images of kittens and puppies. Now even looking at them instantly makes everyone think about what others might be thinking. This is just weird. I have three kids, and I laugh all day at seeing them and others bounce around.

I'm not a perv. I do not need to justify my likes or my action. I do not want to live in a society where bullies require a justification from me - or from 99% of the rest of society.
 
Aren't cemeteries private property?
Most are, but only the "big" ones really enforce the rules here. It is up to the individual cemetery , and their policies. My future son-in-laws brother is one of the big guns at the largest cemetery here, and he got me a paper on the rules of conduct in the cemetery. No photography, or gravestone etchings. You can get written permission to photograph there tho. Im glad I have an "in":D:D
 

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