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[bribrius]

That thing is just freaky.

it isn't so much being in the tube that is freaky but the machine itself makes really loud deep buzzing sounds. And they put this thing over your head to lock it in place and strap you down so you cant move. they put a button in your hand though so if you start to freak out and you need to hit the button and they will pull you back out and unstrap you.

 

[limr17]

Yeah, you've mentioned that magnesium thing before--didn't you say it helped with depression? THAT might come in handy this winter--and by winter, apparently I mean "tomorrow."

Yup, it has been indicated in several recent studies for the treatment of depression. Here's the abstract of one of them:

"Magnesium is one of the most essential mineral in the human body, connected with brain biochemistry and the fluidity of neuronal membrane. A variety of neuromuscular and psychiatric symptoms, including different types of depression, was observed in magnesium deficiency. Plasma/serum magnesium levels do not seem to be the appropriate indicators of depressive disorders, since ambiguous outcomes, depending on the study, were obtained. The emergence of a new approach to magnesium compounds in medical practice has been seen. Apart from being administered as components of dietary supplements, they are also perceived as the effective agents in treatment of migraine, alcoholism, asthma, heart diseases, arrhythmias, renal calcium stones, premenstrual tension syndrome etc. Magnesium preparations have an essential place in homeopathy as a remedy for a range of mental health problems. Mechanisms of antidepressant action of magnesium are not fully understood yet. Most probably, magnesium influences several systems associated with development of depression. The first information on the beneficial effect of magnesium sulfate given hypodermically to patients with agitated depression was published almost 100 years ago. Numerous pre-clinical and clinical studies confirmed the initial observations as well as demonstrated the beneficial safety profile of magnesium supplementation. Thus, magnesium preparations seem to be a valuable addition to the pharmacological armamentarium for management of depression.""
Magnesium in depression. - PubMed - NCBI

I did a bunch of research on the kinds of supplements and if you're interested, we'll talk!

You can also check out SAM-e supplements, which I also take. SAM-e is a chemical already produced by the body when metabolizing amino acids, and supplementing it, iirc, is linked to increased levels of seratonin, dopamine, and epinephrine.

 

[bribrius]

 

[bribrius]

you guys suffer from depression?

 

[limr17]

That thing is just freaky.

it isn't so much being in the tube that is freaky but the machine itself makes really loud deep buzzing sounds. And they put this thing over your head to lock it in place and strap you down so you cant move. they put a button in your hand though so if you start to freak out and you need to hit the button and they will pull you back out and unstrap you.

That just sounds doubleplusunfun.

I hope tomorrow goes well for you.

Edit: I meant to add a smiley before I hit Submit!

Here it is:

 

[sm4him]

Yeah, you've mentioned that magnesium thing before--didn't you say it helped with depression? THAT might come in handy this winter--and by winter, apparently I mean "tomorrow."

Yup, it has been indicated in several recent studies for the treatment of depression. Here's the abstract of one of them:

"Magnesium is one of the most essential mineral in the human body, connected with brain biochemistry and the fluidity of neuronal membrane. A variety of neuromuscular and psychiatric symptoms, including different types of depression, was observed in magnesium deficiency. Plasma/serum magnesium levels do not seem to be the appropriate indicators of depressive disorders, since ambiguous outcomes, depending on the study, were obtained. The emergence of a new approach to magnesium compounds in medical practice has been seen. Apart from being administered as components of dietary supplements, they are also perceived as the effective agents in treatment of migraine, alcoholism, asthma, heart diseases, arrhythmias, renal calcium stones, premenstrual tension syndrome etc. Magnesium preparations have an essential place in homeopathy as a remedy for a range of mental health problems. Mechanisms of antidepressant action of magnesium are not fully understood yet. Most probably, magnesium influences several systems associated with development of depression. The first information on the beneficial effect of magnesium sulfate given hypodermically to patients with agitated depression was published almost 100 years ago. Numerous pre-clinical and clinical studies confirmed the initial observations as well as demonstrated the beneficial safety profile of magnesium supplementation. Thus, magnesium preparations seem to be a valuable addition to the pharmacological armamentarium for management of depression.""
Magnesium in depression. - PubMed - NCBI

I did a bunch of research on the kinds of supplements and if you're interested, we'll talk!

You can also check out SAM-e supplements, which I also take. SAM-e is a chemical already produced by the body when metabolizing amino acids, and supplementing it, iirc, is linked to increased levels of seratonin, dopamine, and epinephrine.

Definitely interested.

 

[limr17]

you guys suffer from depression?

Yup. Been slowly fighting my way out of it.

 

[bribrius]

That thing is just freaky.

it isn't so much being in the tube that is freaky but the machine itself makes really loud deep buzzing sounds. And they put this thing over your head to lock it in place and strap you down so you cant move. they put a button in your hand though so if you start to freak out and you need to hit the button and they will pull you back out and unstrap you.

That just sounds doubleplusunfun.

I hope tomorrow goes well for you

not to worried about it, just more quacks I am getting used to it.

 

[bribrius]

you guys suffer from depression?

Yup. Been slowly fighting my way out of it.

do they have a cause?

 

[limr17]

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I like this one.

 

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[sm4him]

you guys suffer from depression?

I did for many years. MANY years. Most of my late teens and adult life really. Struggled with it off and on--more on than off, and while I never attempted suicide, I certainly contemplated methods often enough.

Tried counseling. Tried medication. Still went up and down and up and down. Finally found a medication that worked for me long enough to get into a stable enough place where I was able to deal with some of the stuff in my head--also had a spiritual experience that I won't get into here.

The result is that I've been off medication without a single true clinical depressive episode in about 3 years. I know many of my triggers and am careful to do what I need to in order to keep from starting down the spiral.

But winter is the WORST because I also have Seasonal Affective Disorder. Sometimes in the midst of winter, I truly just have no desire to keep fighting me way through toward another Spring.

And THIS year, I'm seriously already wondering how I'm gonna deal with another winter, and it's not even November yet.

I gotta move further south. But other than winter, I love it here too much to move.

 

[bribrius]

 

[sm4him]

Alright, that's it for me. The bed is beckoning me.

See you LB'ers in the morning! Just TWO MORE DAYS of this jammin' thread!

 

[bribrius]

you guys suffer from depression?

I did for many years. MANY years. Most of my late teens and adult life really. Struggled with it off and on--more on than off, and while I never attempted suicide, I certainly contemplated methods often enough.

Tried counseling. Tried medication. Still went up and down and up and down. Finally found a medication that worked for me long enough to get into a stable enough place where I was able to deal with some of the stuff in my head--also had a spiritual experience that I won't get into here.

The result is that I've been off medication without a single true clinical depressive episode in about 3 years. I know many of my triggers and am careful to do what I need to in order to keep from starting down the spiral.

But winter is the WORST because I also have Seasonal Affective Disorder. Sometimes in the midst of winter, I truly just have no desire to keep fighting me way through toward another Spring.

And THIS year, I'm seriously already wondering how I'm gonna deal with another winter, and it's not even November yet.

I gotta move further south. But other than winter, I love it here too much to move.

I get kind of down in winter too. curious too know how I do this year it will be the first year since I was fourteen I wasn't working or doing something during the winter. Not sure if that is good or bad. I do think the snow is pretty, I just hate the cold. I used to keep busy plowing driveways too had a route I did but since my stroke I cant really drive much now so I probably wont even be pushing much snow.