Losing business to amateurs

[bribrius]

Is sport photography very challenging? Last time I was shooting race cars, it was very hard. I just don't understand why this lady would shoot for free.

Because she can and because she wants to. I imagine that the kind of person who can retire in her 40s is the kind of person who is used to getting what she wants.

It is the mindset. some people are like that. My darling wife donates to charities, donates to the church, volunteers for pta, church functions, kids programs, public functions. She can pee away fifteen k by accident while being nice. Is she rich? Hell no she don't even work she just hands me the bills to figure out. Then I freak out while she is volunteering and giving to charities and I pull the "why don't you do something to MAKE money for a change" card. she would shoot for free just like she makes wedding cakes for free and throws together baby showers for people for free and volunteers for free for everything.

 

[Gary A.]

If I'm a retired millionaire or earned a little over $900,000 on my saving account, I would still charge that university for about 10k and donate the money to the charity.

I am a former new photog and I now perform a lot of pro bono work. Money doesn't have to be everything.

 

[tecboy]

My point is this young 40s years old socialite willing to work hard as a sport photographer without getting merit and credit. This sounds like she is been taken advantage by the university. She showing a bad example or bad role model among the photography community. So, it is okay to work for free even she is very talented and highly skilled photographer. She should a least get some respects for herself and the photography community.

 

[photoguy99]

Some posters in this thread seem to be taking it as a given that photographs and photography have value, and fairly high value at that.

Would anyone care to take a stab at explaining why? Where does this value come from?

When I buy a car I understand that steel costs money. I understand that the labor of assembling cars is not much fun, and that therefore I need to pay pretty well for that. I understand that auto design is actually very complex and difficult and I have to pay for that. Raw materials, completed subassemblies, and finished cars have to be transported around, which costs labor and fuel.

What are the components of photography and photographs that justify a high price? Or any price above $0 for that matter?

 

[BillM]

Are cameras free ????

 

[robbins.photo]

Is sport photography very challenging? Last time I was shooting race cars, it was very hard. I just don't understand why this lady would shoot for free.

Because she can and because she wants to. I imagine that the kind of person who can retire in her 40s is the kind of person who is used to getting what she wants.

It is the mindset. some people are like that. My darling wife donates to charities, donates to the church, volunteers for pta, church functions, kids programs, public functions. She can pee away fifteen k by accident while being nice. Is she rich? Hell no she don't even work she just hands me the bills to figure out. Then I freak out while she is volunteering and giving to charities and I pull the "why don't you do something to MAKE money for a change" card. she would shoot for free just like she makes wedding cakes for free and throws together baby showers for people for free and volunteers for free for everything.

Ok, so she's taking jobs away from ministers, priests, day care workers, pastry chefs and event planners... and she doesn't even have a family villa?

Whacky

 

[robbins.photo]

Are cameras free ????

Yes.

The bolt cutters you need to get them off that dang walmart display though cost an arm and a leg.

 

[BillM]

I'm not fast enough to get a "free" one anymore

 

[slackercruster]

Some posters in this thread seem to be taking it as a given if a photog doesa jpobthat photographs and photography have value, and fairly high value at that.

Would anyone care to take a stab at explaining why? Where does this value come from?

When I buy a car I understand that steel costs money. I understand that the labor of assembling cars is not much fun, and that therefore I need to pay pretty well for that. I understand that auto design is actually very complex and difficult and I have to pay for that. Raw materials, completed subassemblies, and finished cars have to be transported around, which costs labor and fuel.

What are the components of photography and photographs that justify a high price? Or any price above $0 for that matter?

When a photog does a job, sure pay them for time and talent. But the 1/2 million $ tricycle is BS. An inkjet print cost a few bucks to run off. It is all in the sig line. Without it the print is worth very little.

 

[BillM]

Is she single ???

 

[photoguy99]

Cameras are not free.

Carry on, you've got the beginning of something. Let's see where it goes.

 

[robbins.photo]

Is she single ???

And if so does she own a set of bolt cutters, and how fast is she in the 100 yard dash?

 

[BillM]

With her bank account we could be driving a Ferrari for a get away car !!!

 

[photoguy99]

Ugh. Please don't try to make a case for the value of a photograph as a series of one line platitudes. I haven't the strength to try to assemble them into an argument.

If someone really wants to take a stab at the question, actually think about it for a few minutes and try to write something complete. At least, if you want me to read it.

If you don't, of course, carry on.

 

[snerd]

Is she single ???

And if so does she own a set of bolt cutters, and how fast is she in the 100 yard dash?

Post pics of teef!