Love And Desire

[GrahamPhisher]

Milla - Love & Desire (GrahamPhisher Photography)

one of his tracks below, I didn't make this video, but it has more artwork from the shoot in it.

 

[Granddad]

It's a tough job but I suppose someone has to do it. ----- :lmao: Once again, nice work.

 

[DiskoJoe]

This shot should have been wider. The crop looks bad here. You clipped his hands and the ladies feet. Also its soft and there are halos popping everywhere and the colors look like yuck. Not feeling this edit. You had a good idea but the follow through leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[CA_]

Graham,

I've noticed your work and I think you're on the brink of having a pretty good commercial eye, just a few tips to push you a bit further:

HDR, A good HDR will not have the tell-tale signs of HDR (halos, burnt-out images). These aren't too badly burnt, but there are halos. I keep my HDR's gentle, and I use the shadow / highlight function when the HDR is just simply too much. And if I need to go a bit harder with the HDR, I always cut out the subject from the background to avoid halos.

Secondly, I would recommend using a technique called 'carving'. A good post-processor will know what this is. It's how to make the skin wrap better, and shape the light how you want it. The rule of thumb: Build contrast in post, not in camera.

Anyway, good luck!

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Secondly, I would recommend using a technique called 'carving'. A good post-processor will know what this is. It's how to make the skin wrap better, and shape the light how you want it. The rule of thumb: Build contrast in post, not in camera.

Anyway, good luck!

Or he could always learn how to use studio flash better so this drastic amount of post processing isn't necessary?

I guess this approach works, if you want to spend countless hours on every file-- which IMO is a huge time suck and workflow killer.

A lot can be done IN CAMERA, and it all has to do with how you light a scene.

The more work you can do in camera, the less you need to do in post.

 

[DiskoJoe]

Secondly, I would recommend using a technique called 'carving'. A good post-processor will know what this is. It's how to make the skin wrap better, and shape the light how you want it. The rule of thumb: Build contrast in post, not in camera.

Anyway, good luck!

Or he could always learn how to use studio flash better so this drastic amount of post processing isn't necessary?

I guess this approach works, if you want to spend countless hours on every file-- which IMO is a huge time suck and workflow killer.

A lot can be done IN CAMERA, and it all has to do with how you light a scene.

The more work you can do in camera, the less you need to do in post.

Im with rotan here. Better technique up front would have prevented a lot of editing and editing issues.

 

[o hey tyler]

The rule of thumb: Build contrast in post, not in camera.

That's not a rule of thumb and perhaps the worst advice I've seen today.

Get it right IN CAMERA. Control the light, not your Wacom.

 

[CA_]

The rule of thumb: Build contrast in post, not in camera.

That's not a rule of thumb and perhaps the worst advice I've seen today.

Get it right IN CAMERA. Control the light, not your Wacom.

Well using a 'wacom' is an art in itself. I subscribe to a Joel Grimes-esque type of work flow, and he disagrees. He builds all of his contrast in post. But hey, he's just Joel Grimes.

 

[o hey tyler]

Well using a 'wacom' is an art in itself. I subscribe to a Joel Grimes-esque type of work flow, and he disagrees. He builds all of his contrast in post. But hey, he's just Joel Grimes.

You're right, he is just Joel Grimes. It makes absolutely no sense to create more work for yourself when you, as a photographer, are in charge of using light to your advantage. Joel Grimes is a digital artist, not so much a photographer. Granted, his stuff looks good. But it's 80% post work. Dave hill is the same way.

 

[CA_]

Well using a 'wacom' is an art in itself. I subscribe to a Joel Grimes-esque type of work flow, and he disagrees. He builds all of his contrast in post. But hey, he's just Joel Grimes.

You're right, he is just Joel Grimes. It makes absolutely no sense to create more work for yourself when you, as a photographer, are in charge of using light to your advantage. Joel Grimes is a digital artist, not so much a photographer. Granted, his stuff looks good. But it's 80% post work. Dave hill is the same way.

Bingo. And the advice I'm offering is specific to the OP, given the type of things I've seen him post in the past.

I'm a digital artist, not a photographer. I sculpt light just like you, but I do it in a different way. It's all art, we just use different brushes.

 

[o hey tyler]

Bingo. And the advice I'm offering is specific to the OP, given the type of things I've seen him post in the past.

I'm a digital artist, not a photographer. I sculpt light just like you, but I do it in a different way. It's all art, we just use different brushes.

Adding darker pixels =\= sculpting light

Not trying to discredit your processing ability, but they are entirely different things with entirely different skill sets and awareness.

 

[CA_]

Bingo. And the advice I'm offering is specific to the OP, given the type of things I've seen him post in the past.

I'm a digital artist, not a photographer. I sculpt light just like you, but I do it in a different way. It's all art, we just use different brushes.

Adding darker pixels =\= sculpting light

Not trying to discredit your processing ability, but they are entirely different things with entirely different skill sets and awareness.

Well, technically you're now talking about destructive / non destructive editing, and we're not adding any pixels at all, we're changing data that's already present (after all, .raws aren't image files, they're data files).

And yes, manipulating shadow/light is shaping light. Just with a different tool. Different awarenesses I certainly agree with. It was only until I adopted a lot of good basic photography techniques that my post-editing got way better because I looked for things I hadn't looked for before, so yes, the skill sets / awareness are certainly their own.

 

[CA_]

lol it's 2:15am..

sleepy time for me.

 

[o hey tyler]

So if you do shading with a Wacom tablet, you're not editing any pixels at all?

All I'm saying is, proper photographic technique and knowledge will drastically reduce time in post processing.

 

[Starskream666]

Man it looks like you shoved that clarity slider all the way to the top. Apologies if you didn't but it looks like that effect you get when the picture was out of focus but you try save it by dragging the clarity slider in lightroom too far.