Man Tased flying his drone in State Park

[waday]

Don't they usually shoot them with bullets when running away in the US and then have riots ? I think he came off lightly

Depends on if the person has a firearm. Not everyone here is armed like Dirty Harry.

It also depends on the person's race.

Deadly Force in Black and White - ProPublica

 

[timor]

The man was obviously gathering intelligence for Al Qaeda, videoing the state's volcanic infrastructure (oh so vital to national defense!) so terrorists could plot to destroy it.

You just be careful with such a statements. Don't you know, that it is very easy to conceal start of ICBM from volcanic crater ? It looks like an ordinary, small eruption and will be ignored. Especially, if a day before TV will show some fake digital pictures of lava flowing and smoke rising and evacuation of people. The secret is very important, cause this are no defensive installations. So no drones !

 

[timor]

Don't they usually shoot them with bullets when running away in the US and then have riots ? I think he came off lightly

Depends on if the person has a firearm. Not everyone here is armed like Dirty Harry.

Depends which agency he belongs to. By today standards Dirty Harry didn't have much.

 

[Tailgunner]

You stated man was tased for refusing to lease, the man said he was tased while trying to leave.

I think I said "uncooperative". As in; refusing to stop and be identified, running away. Those things tend to get the full attention of LEOs.

Of course it drew attention of law enforcement (if thats what happened), the question is was it excessive. Courts go back back and forth on when an officer can or can't tase someone. Federal Courts have ruled against officers under the same basic circumstances only to turn around and rule for them.

Anyhow:

There is no such things as RC planes and helicopters anymore. There is only drones thanks to some creative marketing. In days past, most people never thought twice about it. Now their all over the media and the FAA is about to start issuing license for people to use toys. So do diligence before you just run out and buy one. Federal, State, and local governments are starting to pass laws considering them. People in Colorado can legally shoot drones down while State parks are no fly zones for example.

 

[vintagesnaps]

Of course what ends up in the news are the incidents that are out of the ordinary, not the day to day occurrences that happen to most people in their daily lives. And so much seems to get hyped (and sometimes ends up on sites that are not reputable or necessarily posting accurate information).

In this situation what doesn't make sense to me is why the guy took off, especially being there with his family. I think if an officer approaches someone and the person bolts there's going to be a pursuit; I don't know if it was necessary or if it was excessive to use a taser, but if the guy doesn't stop running the officer would be likely to have to take further action.

I think a difference with the UAVs is the distance they can be flown. I've seen reports of incidents of one almost landing on an interstate, possibly alongside a plane (that wasn't apparently confirmed), one even banged into the top of the space needle. So they aren't backyard toys but are easy enough to buy and don't seem to be well enough regulated yet.

 

[Braineack]

In this situation what doesn't make sense to me is why the guy took off, especially being there with his family.

Yes, it does make you question the ranger's version of the accounts. Witnesses don't seem to claim he was running away, and he had time to bring the chopper down and argue about his ID and state he was leaving with his family in tow.

Dont worry, this guy will be able to afford a new chopper soon: Judge Park Ranger s Tasering of Dog Walker Was Unlawful News Fix KQED News

Althought this officer was cleared of wrongdoing, after he killed a tiny girl doing the same thing:

 

[407370]

So have I got this right?
You give tasers to park rangers (I am making the assumption that "park ranger" has some law enforcement connotation in USA) and then dont train them well enough to engage other human beings without use of a taser AND AMERICANS ARE OK WITH THIS?????

 

[480sparky]

So have I got this right?
You give tasers to park rangers (I am making the assumption that "park ranger" has some law enforcement connotation in USA) and then dont train them well enough to engage other human beings without use of a taser AND AMERICANS ARE OK WITH THIS?????

Um........... no.


That's part of the reason there's been so many responses to this thread about it.

 

[waday]

So have I got this right?
You give tasers to park rangers (I am making the assumption that "park ranger" has some law enforcement connotation in USA) and then dont train them well enough to engage other human beings without use of a taser AND AMERICANS ARE OK WITH THIS?????

Agree with @480sparky. We're not all stereotypes. It's best to keep an open mind, so that people don't make the same stereotypes about other countries' citizens.

 

[Braineack]

you mean like communists who enjoy starving to death?

we don't have the full story, probably will never get it.

his eventual lawsuit will get settled out of court, ensuring that no case law gets established to prevent this from happening in the future.

 

[407370]

Agree with @480sparky. We're not all stereotypes. It's best to keep an open mind, so that people don't make the same stereotypes about other countries' citizens.

The last thing I would ever do is apply stereotypes to any nationality.
The FAA and some other aviation authorities are making up some truly ridiculous rules for toys that fly. The quadcopter is a fantastic invention but will be outlawed by paranoia and that really bugs me for some reason.

 

[480sparky]

............ The quadcopter is a fantastic invention but will be outlawed by paranoia and that really bugs me for some reason.

The same thing is happening to cameras today.

 

[Designer]

You can always count on government agencies to over-react.

 

[snerd]

So have I got this right?
You give tasers to park rangers (I am making the assumption that "park ranger" has some law enforcement connotation in USA) and then dont train them well enough to engage other human beings without use of a taser AND AMERICANS ARE OK WITH THIS?????

The majority of us are okay with it. That's how these asinine laws get passed............... we give up a little freedom for a "perceived" sense of security. It's sickening, and completely contrary to what the people who founded this country fought for. And it is "way" worse than most folks even know. But hey, we're safe from the boogymen!!

 

[480sparky]

The majority of us are totally ignorant and merrily oblivious to it.........

FIFY.