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On the fence here!

Ballistics said:
What do you mean?

Kit lenses aren't known to fully resolve high megapixel levels. That's why everyone recommends using only the best glass for the d800 and the d3200 has a grater pixel density than even the d800
 
Well, guess I need to do even more homework then. At this point I don't know which lenses I would want. I definitely want to do macro and HDR...actually, I guess I want to be able to do more or less a broad spectrum, but macro is my main interest, followed by HDR and landscapes, buildings.

I'm thinking a set up to do macro and probably a zoom of some sort and a wider angle for landscapes or buildings, etc is where I would be looking in the lens department. I did look at KEH at the used lenses they have and some are, as you mentioned still pricey, but there were quite a few that were a third or even less than what a new, similar lens would be.

I don't have a problem spending $100-$150 on a lens and find it isn't quite what I expected...I can live with that, but $1000+ per lens and oh boy...I'd be lucky to get a new lens every year or two.
 
Have you considered used? A used D90 would be a very good place to start as an alternative. They run slightly more than what you listed in good condition but it might be worth it to consider.
 
Well, after further consideration I have to temper myself here a little. This is, after all just going to be a hobby. I have no intentions or desire to do this professionally (I've already fallen into the "turn your hobby into a job" trap before and don't want to do that again).

So, in that line of thought AEB isn't a big deal. If I'm too lazy to manually make three exposures and set the EV then I'm just too lazy. As I found after more reading last night there are any number of tethered or even a wireless option to do AEB later on if I so choose.

The availability of older (i.e. cheaper) lenses has grabbed my attention. I had already "assumed" that any new lens was going to be a major $$$ investment and that to some degree was partially responsible for my desire to have an MP-E65 (and subsequently another pricey device in a decent flash set up, such as the MT-24).

I think I can probably assemble a nice macro set up that will satisfy me and not break the bank either. It's pretty clear that I'm not going to achieve some of the results I see without a pretty hefty investment (and assuming I can develop the skills to go with it), so for now I'm willing to accept less for less. Then there's always hope Nikon might come out with their own 5:1 lens one day...

Either way, I think for my budget (and future budget) Nikon is the way to go and the D3200 will do me quite nicely. It'll certainly be capable of far more than I am at this point.

If for some reason later I find myself in a financial situation where the cost of cameras and gear are less of an issue, I can always trade up to something bigger and better, or maybe even just buy a Canon and that MP-E65. At this point I either go entry level and work with it, or I don't get a camera at all. I'd rather have the entry level camera and less than uber, stellar lenses and at least be taking photos than not to have one at all.
 

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