photos blown out using natural light in doors

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  1. Ysarex

    Ysarex Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    The problem is that the meter doesn't resolve the lighting problem -- the lighting problem remains regardless of the exposure. The diffuse highlights are clipped and the red channel is nuked in the version presented, but the main subject is too dark. You could use a meter to calculate a reduced exposure and the main subject that is already too dark in the shadow will get darker in the shadow. That just makes the photo worse overall.

    I'll bet the diffuse highlights are not clipped in the raw original -- there's actually very little highlight clipping in that photo. The clipping he's getting now is from processing as he struggles to lighten up the subject because the subject is in shadows due to the backlight.

    A meter could help uncover the root problem, but so can eyes.

    Joe


     
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    480sparky Chief Free Electron Relocator Supporting Member

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    If everything was taken at ISO 100, the noise will be the same. I suspect you really didn't shoot them all at ISO 100. ISO is the ONLY thing you can change that will affect noise. Aperture doesn't. Shutter speeds don't. ONLY ISO.
     
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    still an aperture and shutter you can adjust...
     
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    redbourn No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Dropbox - dijon style chicken.NEF

    Is the original or very close to it.

    Michael
     
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    redbourn No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Shot on my phone.

    Same place on the table and table same place next to the window and same time of day and weather.

    Michael
     
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    redbourn No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Camera was set for aperture and I used a dozen f stops all with the same result.

    Photo taken on my phone today did not have the same problem . very frustrating.

    Michael
     
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    redbourn No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Am very interested in your response and thanks for posting.

    The chicken needs to be at the front since it's the feature.

    Photos is table and window (at night) ..

    I can have my back to the window and shoot in the opposite direction but then I will cast a shadow.

    Ideas please?

    Michael


    window set up.jpg
     
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    Ysarex Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    And here's a histogram of that raw file:

    chicken_hist.jpg

    Not a single pixel in the shot is clipped. This is a full detail raw file with all highlights fully intact.

    You blew the highlights in the version you processed in LR because your subject (chicken) was too dark in the shadows and you tried to compensate for that in processing. The correct place to make that compensation was lighting the chicken in the first place.

    Joe
     
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    Very different angle (Designer noted) for the phone shot. Highlights in the phone shot are badly clipped.

    Joe

     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    You've tried a million different things since you first posted here, but as far as I can tell you don't seem to be actually working on learning the photographic process, you're just throwing s**t at the wall to see what sticks, and it doesn't matter if you throw overhand, underhand, or side-arm, it's all going to splatter messily.

    You need to get some proper equipment; three-four inexpensive speedlights & triggers, so white & black cardstock to make reflectors & flags, and then get some prop food and spend a week or two with that and a copy of Light, Science, Magic! and actually learn how to do this properly. LEARN how to control highlights, LEARN what affect each parameter will have on your shot, etc, etc.
     
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    sounds like you dont know how to operate your camera.
     
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    More to the point, not knowing which settings to use for this particular subject.
     

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