Please I Need Your opinion

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

Hello guys,

(If you want to jump to my questions, they are marked with ^^/- below)

My name is Peter, I'm 16 years old (yesterday ), I'm from Beirut, Lebanon. Photography became my hobby from the first day i hand holded a Point and shoot camera (I was 7 years old).
I bought from 1.5 year a Samsung Nx300 camera that is good for being my first actual camera that helped me learn everything i need. But the problem is (after reading a lot of stuff) that Nikon bought Samsung's Camera department and i can no longet buy a Samsung Nx lens = i'm stuck with my 18-55 for ever ( i don't really want to use other brand lenses with Manual focus on my samsung ).

I came here seeking for your help to choose a new camera *Dslr* because I'm lost.
I helped my dad at work this summer and yesterday was my B-Day got some gifts and money (to buy my own gift) and i have now 700$.
My dream camera the is Nikon D500 (1600$ body only)
I really like wildlife, sport, timelapse, portrait, product photography.

^^Questions:^^

-with my 700$ (maybe 750$~800$ if i got more money gift) do you think i should buy an entry-level Dslr *Nikon brand* or wait for the D500 with 1600$+ lens=400$~500$ (= buying a professional Dslr directly without having old entry-level bodies to sell...) ?

-If i should buy an entry-level Dslr Nikon, which one do you think I should get?

-And if I should buy the D500: which is the best lens i should start with for 400$-500$ ?

Thank you

P.S:
Stuff i need in a Dslr:
-Wifi.
-Articulated screen.
-good focusing.
-good frame rate.

Thank you

fmw · Aug 29, 2017

The most important piece of equipment for wildlife photography is a quality telephoto lens. The camera body is really unimportant. You are worried about the wrong thing. You certainly write English well for a Lebanese.

Designer · Aug 29, 2017

The D5xxx series have an articulating screen. Get either a new kit or one lightly used. You won't need your entire budget, leaving you extra for either another lens or a tripod or a flash.

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

fmw said:
The most important piece of equipment for wildlife photography is a quality telephoto lens. The camera body is really unimportant. You are worried about the wrong thing. You certainly write English well for a Lebanese.

Hello, thank you for your answer.
I wanted to buy at the beginning a lens not for wildlife, but for everyday use until i save up for the 200-500 or the sigma 150-600 Contemporary

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

Designer said:
The D5xxx series have an articulating screen. Get either a new kit or one lightly used. You won't need your entire budget, leaving you extra for either another lens or a tripod or a flash.

Hello, thank you for your answer.
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I'm really interested in buying the d5600, but I'm scared about making a wrong choice and that the camera will not help me.

-I'm almost half way for the d500 body only.

-I keep watching videos on youtube saying that the 800d is better than the d5600 with all the cross type points and processors.

dunfly · Aug 29, 2017

The D500 is the best camera, but I am not sure it is worth the extra money. I have been trying to talk myself into one for a while, but given the price and the extra weight, I decided to stay with my D5200. It is an earlier model, but DXO mark has the image quality about the same as any D5x00 model, just without some of the bells and whistles. Anyway, if you go with the D500, you would likely match it with the Nikkor 16-80 DX lens, which is another $1,000, although you can certainly get by with the Nikkor 18-140 DX for about half the price. I personally would go with the D5600 with the Nikkor 18-140 DX lens, but I have no illusions about doing this professionally.

The 800d is a whole other animal. I don't really think you can compare the two. It is an FX sensor and you would need full frame lenses, which are more expensive than their DX brothers.

jaomul · Aug 29, 2017

It's unfortunate that Samsung pulled out of the camera business, they had just got real good.

The thing is if you buy with your budget you'll probably end up with a nice camera and kit lens. It probably won't be any better than what you have, except you can add to it.

I'd probably in your case hold off a little while, use the Samsung and when you have a little more money go for something like a d7200 or d7500. The d500 is obviously top dog in Nikon crop cameras but the other two, especially the d7200 are cheaper and very capable. It does depend on how much you need the touch screen.

The d5600 is a nice camera, but for a little more (maybe less if you go second hand) the 7xxx series do have nice advantages

jcdeboever · Aug 29, 2017

The D500 is in a class by itself for focus acquisition in wildlife Photography. I know that money is burning a hole in your pocket. Save it. Buy it when you can pay for it.

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

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dunfly said:
The D500 is the best camera, but I am not sure it is worth the extra money. I have been trying to talk myself into one for a while, but given the price and the extra weight, I decided to stay with my D5200. It is an earlier model, but DXO mark has the image quality about the same as any D5x00 model, just without some of the bells and whistles. Anyway, if you go with the D500, you would likely match it with the Nikkor 16-80 DX lens, which is another $1,000, although you can certainly get by with the Nikkor 18-140 DX for about half the price. I personally would go with the D5600 with the Nikkor 18-140 DX lens, but I have no illusions about doing this professionally.

The 800d is a whole other animal. I don't really think you can compare the two. It is an FX sensor and you would need full frame lenses, which are more expensive than their DX brothers.

Hello, I for your answer and for the lens recomendation.

I just got an offer for 800d 2250$ and you Sir told me that it's a full frame. I'm talking about the Eos 800d not D800. (Or there's a 800d full frame?)

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

jaomul said:
It's unfortunate that Samsung pulled out of the camera business, they had just got real good.

The thing is if you buy with your budget you'll probably end up with a nice camera and kit lens. It probably won't be any better than what you have, except you can add to it.

I'd probably in your case hold off a little while, use the Samsung and when you have a little more money go for something like a d7200 or d7500. The d500 is obviously top dog in Nikon crop cameras but the other two, especially the d7200 are cheaper and very capable. It does depend on how much you need the touch screen.

The d5600 is a nice camera, but for a little more (maybe less if you go second hand) the 7xxx series do have nice advantages

Hello, thank you for your answer.
As i know, the D7500 cost on my country a price close to the one of the D500 but the d7500 with a lens and the D500 body only.

Peter-55 · Aug 29, 2017

jcdeboever said:
The D500 is in a class by itself for focus acquisition in wildlife Photography. I know that money is burning a hole in your pocket. Save it. Buy it when you can pay for it.

Hello, thank you for your answer.
I was thinking the same but everyone (not here on the forum) keep telling me that the D500 just be used with a lens no less than 900$; and i'm lost trying to know which lens to buy for 400$~500$ that can be an all around until i buy another big one.

Hope you can give me some recomendation.

Thank you.

jaomul · Aug 30, 2017

Maybe you are aiming to high for your first dslr. You certainly don't need to buy a d500 to take fantastic photos, in fact a d500 is pretty much a specialist speed camera that does fast stuff superbly, but does everything else very well also.

If Nikon is your brand of choice you won't lose out on image quality with a d5600. It doesn't have the very fancy autofocus that a d500 has and you lose a lot of bells and whistles, but image quality between the two is very close. The newer AF-P lenses are inexpensive and supposedly work fantastic with the newer d5xxx series cameras.

If you can afford a d500, great, but do you need such a high specced camera?

Nikon D5600 vs Nikon D500 | DxOMark

trinidadgonzalezsardi · Aug 30, 2017

Peter-55 said:
Hello guys,

(If you want to jump to my questions, they are marked with ^^/- below)

My name is Peter, I'm 16 years old (yesterday ), I'm from Beirut, Lebanon. Photography became my hobby from the first day i hand holded a Point and shoot camera (I was 7 years old).
I bought from 1.5 year a Samsung Nx300 camera that is good for being my first actual camera that helped me learn everything i need. But the problem is (after reading a lot of stuff) that Nikon bought Samsung's Camera department and i can no longet buy a Samsung Nx lens = i'm stuck with my 18-55 for ever ( i don't really want to use other brand lenses with Manual focus on my samsung ).

I came here seeking for your help to choose a new camera *Dslr* because I'm lost.
I helped my dad at work this summer and yesterday was my B-Day got some gifts and money (to buy my own gift) and i have now 700$.
My dream camera the is Nikon D500 (1600$ body only)
I really like wildlife, sport, timelapse, portrait, product photography.

^^Questions:^^

-with my 700$ (maybe 750$~800$ if i got more money gift) do you think i should buy an entry-level Dslr *Nikon brand* or wait for the D500 with 1600$+ lens=400$~500$ (= buying a professional Dslr directly without having old entry-level bodies to sell...) ?

-If i should buy an entry-level Dslr Nikon, which one do you think I should get?

-And if I should buy the D500: which is the best lens i should start with for 400$-500$ ?

Thank you

P.S:
Stuff i need in a Dslr:
-Wifi.
-Articulated screen.
-good focusing.
-good frame rate.

Thank you

I have a Nikon D7000 and I think it's perfect to start with photography. The most important thing to the kind of photography you like is a good quality lens. Wide angle, good aperture. I'm a big fan of the 14-24mm f2.8 for landscape and the 50mm 1.8 for portraits and product photography

zombiesniper · Aug 30, 2017

You have some great recommendations in this thread.
If you are able I would say go into a store and handle the camera/lens that you are contemplating. This will give you a basic feel for it. If you can rent the camera for a day or two and go shoot with it. This is always going to be the best option.
If none of this is an option then think about it this way. A top quality camera will be out paced with new bodies in a year or two. Quality glass takes decades to be replaced.
You only need a camera that is more capable than you are and no offence to everyone but a very basic DSLR is more capable than 90% of ALL photographers on the planet....including me. So don't worry so much about getting the D500. Is it a fantastic camera with an amazing auto focus. Yes.....at least for now.
Get a middle of the road ie. not the most basic but decent camera body and one or two quality lenses and you will be well on your way to producing excellent images.

trinidadgonzalezsardi said:
Wide angle, good aperture. I'm a big fan of the 14-24mm f2.8 for landscape

This didn't aid in the discussion other than to put in your preference. Unless I missed where the OP mentioned landscape and if this is the case, disregard my comment.

Peter-55 · Aug 30, 2017

zombiesniper said:
You have some great recommendations in this thread.
If you are able I would say go into a store and handle the camera/lens that you are contemplating. This will give you a basic feel for it. If you can rent the camera for a day or two and go shoot with it. This is always going to be the best option.
If none of this is an option then think about it this way. A top quality camera will be out paced with new bodies in a year or two. Quality glass takes decades to be replaced.
You only need a camera that is more capable than you are and no offence to everyone but a very basic DSLR is more capable than 90% of ALL photographers on the planet....including me. So don't worry so much about getting the D500. Is it a fantastic camera with an amazing auto focus. Yes.....at least for now.
Get a middle of the road ie. not the most basic but decent camera body and one or two quality lenses and you will be well on your way to producing excellent images.

trinidadgonzalezsardi said:

Wide angle, good aperture. I'm a big fan of the 14-24mm f2.8 for landscape

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This didn't aid in the discussion other than to put in your preference. Unless I missed where the OP mentioned landscape and if this is the case, disregard my comment.