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[kundalini]

......Don't stop posting here, but do start self-filtering a little. You say you're a slow learner but you're kinda drinking through a fire hose here. .....

...... Here's a radical suggestion: put your camera in Full Auto and work SOLELY on your focus and composition, your eye. Post a few shots up here and explain that they were shot in auto because you're working on finding interesting subjects and good composition, and ask for feedback specifically along those lines. ......

.......Take some art classes at school. Even if they're not specifically photography-related, they will help tune your eye. .......

Some sage advice in OrionByte's post.

 

[e.rose]

Your doing my ****ing head in but i still want to help you

The male version of erose. Look at where she has developed. Miracles do happen.

I'm not *COMPLETELY* hopeless! :hug::

NO NO NO, No way near Erose. She listened and understood.

That's because I knew that I sucked... and STILL suck, compared to a lot of your (meaning everyone on the forum) work, and ESPECIALLY compared to the level I want to be at... but the only way I'm going to get there is by learning from those that are better than me. :sillysmi:

Only thing they have in common is creating threads that go on for 5+ pages and a high post count in little time.

What can I say? I'm talented. :lmao:

You ask for CC, yet there is a sense of 'argue' in your responses. Telling people you know the triangle and focusing, yet not ....but still sticking to your guns and telling us over and over you understand it, is getting tiring (along with telling us there is nothing interesting to shoot around you over and over and over).

Exactly. If people are telling you there's something wrong with the image, that pertains to something you *thought* you knew... then you *don't* know it as well as you thought. Maybe you were *completely* confident in thinking you knew how it worked when you read it somewhere, but trying to make it HAPPEN is much more difficult than that. The best thing to do when someone tells you something is wrong, is to stay humble, say thank you, and go back and assess what they're telling you and practice with a few hundred thousand times.

I do listen and I do understand. I apply everything that's said to me into my photos.
If I post up a picture, and it may be missing part of something that was previously said to me, then that's my own fault, yes. But it might just be something I forgot, or simply missed.

So then don't argue with them about it if they say you missed your focus or don't know your exposure triangle. If you "forget" to use your exposure triangle, then they're right in the sense that you don't know it as well as you do. You can't forget something like that... it's one of the most fundamental things in photography... so if you're forgetting pieces of that... go back and studying and practice with it more.

It's not like I'm taking soft pictures, or messing up the exposure on purpose. It's called learning, correct? And you learn from your mistakes, correct again?
and before someone says "But you aren't learning from your mistakes", yes, I am. As I said, It may just be something that slips past me. Or I may not notice.

And part of learning is just being humble when someone tells you that you did something wrong. No, you didn't do it on *purpose*, but it's clearly an issue in your images, so rather than fighting to the death that you understand everything, be grateful that people are taking the time to help you and point out your mistakes SO THAT you can learn from them. If someone says your focus is off... but you know that you "put the AF point right over the bunny's eye" so you don't understand why there *would* be focusing issues... your response shouldn't be, "I know I did it right, so there shouldn't be a problem." Your response should be, "Okay, so here's how I did it... what do you think I did wrong?"

And before someone brings up a tripod,
I'm 17. I work 15 hours a week at a retail store for minimum wage.

I'm 24. I work 40+ hours a week doing data entry in a warehouse and my husband and I still live with his parents.

Unlike those of you who can go out and buy $2000 cameras and such, I can barely afford my insurance from month to month, and have money to spare.

I didn't go out and buy a $2,000 camera... and I would KILL to be able to afford insurance. We have none. We have bills coming out our asses that we have to pay for... what do you think adulthood is? All cookies and cream, rainbows and butterflies, where people can suddenly afford to buy whatever they want, whenever they want? ****, I need to find me the tree that's growing money because apparently everyone ELSE knows where it is except for me...

Someone send me a PM with directions! :lmao:

Also, I don't buy myself stuff..I never have. I find it a waste of money. I'd by a homeless person a $6 combo meal at McDonalds before I got myself a double cheeseburger. I know I NEED a tripod. But I also know I can manage without, and still get some decent photos.

Something tells me that you've bought yourself a COUPLE of things in life. No one has *never* bought themselves stuff... and I'm really glad that you'd be willing to buy a homeless person a $6 combo meal at McDonalds, but how many homeless people are knocking at your door everyday? I'm willing to be it's not EVERY day... so... every day... put away the $6 you haven't spent on a homeless person that day (unless that particular day you *have* bought a homeless person a combo meal), and before you know it you will have your tripod.

I think I'll just stop posting stuff altogether, since all I seem to get are 5 pages of people saying "you're doing it wrong, you don't listen, you suck, etc etc etc."
I. Am. A. Slow. Learner.
I. Make. Mistakes.
I. Don't. Even. Have. A. Proper. DSLR.

Those aren't excuses.
they're facts.

Well dude... fact of the matter is... you *do* suck. *I* suck. This **** don't happen over night! :lmao: :hug::

You should embrace the fact that everyone is trying to help you. Most people on this site get 1... maybe 2 responses on their threads and they're lucky if those responses are ANYTHING helpful. You've *many* people in this thread trying to help you out. SEVERAL which I know *I* learned from and helped to better my work. Don't argue with them... don't make excuses about being young and poor, or not having equipment. I used HOUSE LAMPS for lighting when I first started. I STILL don't own any decent lighting, but I was lucky enough to have networked with someone with a home studio and equipment I'm allowed to borrow any time I want.

Networking is important.

It's also most often times free. Just keep that in mind.

And if you're a slow learner, then you need to stop doing 20,000 things at once.

People keep telling you that you need to work on your exposure triangle and focus, right? So forget the lights. Go outside on a nice day... go to a park... go to wherever... and practice taking pictures using your exposure triangle and nailing your focus.

KEEP doing that UNTIL you stop forgetting things.

Come back and post those for C&C specifically stating that those are the two things you were working on and get people's feedback to gauge your progress. Once you've master that, work on you composition. Once you've gotten good with that, add something else to your plate.

You can't do it all at one time... but ALL of it takes practice.

Keep working at it.

 

[Stryker]

I think you have to face the following facts here:
1. You may know the exposure triangle but you are not practicing it or if you are, something is very wrong because the results show
2. You are limited by your resources. You still dont have a tripod and your camera can only do so much. Why shoot in low light situations when all you get is camera shake or a soft output despite focusing it at the right spot.

I suggest you stop shooting in low light, go outside where there is enough ambient light and your camera would have a faster shutter speed, manageable noise, and better image quality. You have to realize that your present gear can't do what a DSLR is capable of.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

You could have bought a tripod from a thrift store instead of supporting the forum. :greenpbl:

 

[e.rose]

You could have bought a tripod from a thrift store instead of supporting the forum. :greenpbl:

BAHAHAHA! I didn't even notice that...

TRUE STORY!

How much did that cost? I bet it was more than $6... and it wasn't for a homeless person either.

You can stop with the excuses now.

 

[itf]

No offense, but I've seen better pictures from an iphone, so don't blame the equipment, blame the user.

 

[manaheim]

mmm... hot bunny.

 

[KevinPutman]

No offense, but I've seen better pictures from an iphone, so don't blame the equipment, blame the user.

Lol no offence?
I haven't even seen any of your pictures, and you've been a member for almost a year not.
Gtfo.

 

[e.rose]

No offense, but I've seen better pictures from an iphone, so don't blame the equipment, blame the user.

Lol no offence?
I haven't even seen any of your pictures, and you've been a member for almost a year not.
Gtfo.

There's that sh*tty attitude again.

Don't be surprised when the help that people are offering to you now starts to quickly dwindle after responses like that.

 

[Overread36]

The students that always spend the lesson fighting the teacher nearly always end up failing the class.

This shouldn't be a fight (but it seems to have partly become one) but rather a discussion. People will raise negative points about your photos and offer solutions, sometimes they will be solutions you can put to good use and other times they won't. The key to getting better suggestions is to always put up More than just your photos. Give your views and opinions - outline you gear and lighting as well as the situation. The more info you put up first the less of the backtracking you'll experience - - furthermore people will be able to give advice more direct toward your specific situation.

In addition don't focus on the negative side to any posts - you are doing this way too much and its distracting you from that the people are saying about your photos - you're slipping into a battle and trying to fight (against what I don't know). Instead its time to take a slice from the humble pie and accept some critical views and also show maturity in not rising to easy flamebait or idle comments.

 

[KevinPutman]

No offense, but I've seen better pictures from an iphone, so don't blame the equipment, blame the user.

Lol no offence?
I haven't even seen any of your pictures, and you've been a member for almost a year not.
Gtfo.

There's that sh*tty attitude again.

Don't be surprised when the help that people are offering to you now starts to quickly dwindle after responses like that.

How exactly was his response "offering help"? My response was appropriate for what he said.




And @ everyone else,
yes, I understand. I'll adjust me attitude and such. Thanks.


Also @ Kudalini, on the first page or so you posted a lighting set up,
I tried that last night, (although I kept the black sheet in the background), and the pictures turned out pretty much the same as the ones I posted on here.
I did try a lighter, tan colored background (all I could find to use), but it looked...icky.

Is there some example of a photo that you could post using that setup and a different color background, just to let me know how it should turn out?

 

[e.rose]

Lol no offence?
I haven't even seen any of your pictures, and you've been a member for almost a year not.
Gtfo.

There's that sh*tty attitude again.

Don't be surprised when the help that people are offering to you now starts to quickly dwindle after responses like that.

How exactly was his response "offering help"? My response was appropriate for what he said.

How exactly do his images have anything to do with his statement? My response was appropriate for what you said. :greenpbl:

He was stating a fact that he's seen better images from an iphone... yet you are complaining that you don't have lights, or a "real" DSLR... so he stated not to blame the equipment... blame the user... which is just another way of him saying that you need to learn more and stop making excuses for your work.

And @ everyone else,
yes, I understand. I'll adjust me attitude and such. Thanks.

I hope so.

 

[KevinPutman]

@e.rose,
not trying to start an argument, rather make a point.

So if someone were to say to you,
"no offence, but my dog's taken better pictures than that, don't blame the equipment, blame the user"
you'd be perfectly okay with it, and consider it "good C&C?"

 

[manaheim]

Even >I< thought the iPhone and "blame the user" comments were pretty obnoxious.

 

[e.rose]

@e.rose,
not trying to start an argument, rather make a point.

So if someone were to say to you,
"no offence, but my dog's taken better pictures than that, don't blame the equipment, blame the user"
you'd be perfectly okay with it, and consider it "good C&C?"

I've received WORSE C&C than that, said "Thank you for your feedback" and moved on.

I've also received various versions of "don't blame the equipment, blame the user"... it's a completely valid point in many cases, including this one.

So again... you need to grow a little thicker skin if you're going to ask for C&C... and just take your camera out and practice. Practice your triangle, your focus, your composition... and then when you're done, practice some more.