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So.. this is a rant about a model who didn't pay for a shoot and expects un-watermarked images.

If you can afford a camera, you can afford a lawyer.

No reason not to do research and pull together some documents in advance, though.

I only own 1 crop sensored camera which I bought for $250 about 3-4 years ago. I recently replaced the shutter and baby the **** out of it.
I do own 2 lenses. 1 50mm 1.4 and a 70-200 f/4 which I bought new off craigslist for $300.

So yes, I can not afford a lawyer simply because I have a 'nice' camera.
I do have a job but I do have bills like everyone else.

My photography business isnt my full time job. It's just a side/extra income for me.
 
Perhaps you should consider holding off on the business aspect of photography until you can afford it. I understand the "everyone has to start somewhere" aspect, but maybe spend the next few months working on the business, that is: Learning about the financial & legal aspects, continuing to build your portfolio, etc, etc. It's a sad reality that being a professional photographer (of the paid variety) is very little about photography and very much about business and paperwork. Do you have insurance? What would you do if your lightstand collapsed and poked your model's eye out?
 
Perhaps you should consider holding off on the business aspect of photography until you can afford it. I understand the "everyone has to start somewhere" aspect, but maybe spend the next few months working on the business, that is: Learning about the financial & legal aspects, continuing to build your portfolio, etc, etc. It's a sad reality that being a professional photographer (of the paid variety) is very little about photography and very much about business and paperwork. Do you have insurance? What would you do if your lightstand collapsed and poked your model's eye out?

This is true and very good advice.
I will hold off on booking bigger events such as weddings and stick to smaller ones like couples, portrait, etc..
I don't have insurance but dont own a light stand either. ;)
 
Hey @NedM , you have my respect for posting your contract and admitting your error.

In theory, there is actually no reason why you shouldn't supply images with your watermark on them, but the nature of a TFP shoot is that you should provide your model with useable images. If they can use your images with your watermark on them, then that is fine - there is no problem, but if they ask you to remove it for display purposes, you should honour that request in the interest of the agreement of providing useable images for the use of their time. You can, by all means, ask that they credit you where possible, but understand that it isn't always possible.

She wants the images to promote herself, not you, and you want the images to promote yourself, not her. That's the trade off. BUT, if you both help promote each other regardless, you will have a new contact in the industry, potential willing future practice guinea pig and probably, a friend as well.

I mostly photograph actors and have done a LOT for free to build my portfolio, but every actor I have photographed is now a friend of mine on Facebook. I join any Facebook pages of plays, films or other shows they are in and I even make a conscious effort to attend their shows if I possibly can (and I do). That way, I can meet them after the show, they'll introduce me to their actor friends as the guy who did their headshots, and bingo! I have ten new potential clients who all shake my hand, know my name and take my business cards.

Your contract did not mention watermarks at all and didn't really mention that the shoot was a TFP arrangement and in that respect was unfair towards the model.

You will have a much more pleasant experience with your models if you are open right from the beginning and tell them if you will be supplying images with a watermark. If they don't want that, either supply them without, or decline the shoot. A TFP is supposed to be a friendly mutually helpful exercise not just to get images but also in networking, which will always be your best marketing tool.

If I were you, I wouldn't panic about it. Everyone will make this kind of mistake somewhere along the line. Treat it as a bad day, send her the images and move on.

I mentioned in another thread somewhere today, that when I do a TFP shoot I don't have a "contract", I use a sort of "Gentlemen's Agreement". Before the day of the shoot, I send the model an email explaining what I expect to happen during the shoot, how long I expect it to last and what they can and cannot do with the images afterwards - I also ask them to specify what format the images should be in to be most useful to them. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I tell what I will and will not do with the images and make sure I stick to that agreement.

You will appear more friendly this way and will build a much better reputation for yourself. If someone wants to commision you for a paid shoot, by all means bring out the contract (make sure you understand it first!), but if it's for free for both of you, give them what they need and they'll give you what you need.

Good luck with it :)
 
As a matter of interest for you @NedM , this is the Gentlemen's Agreement I made with the last TFP I did 3 weeks ago. I actually sent this in the email along with his images, not before, but the same had been spoken verbally beforehand and I told him I would put it in writing:

"Hey (Actor's name),

Attached are your first couple of images in both colour and black and white.

You can also take this email as written permission to use your images (including the subsequent images you are yet to receive) as you wish and wherever you wish for self promotion. The only stipulation is that you cannot sell this image directly to any third party for profit or allow anyone else to further edit or alter the photos without further written permission from me. I also reserve the right to display these images on my own website and/or other mediums including online/printed advertisements to promote my own work and I also will not attempt to sell the images directly to any third party for profit without seeking written permission from you.

I also politely request that where you display these images for self promotion (including, but not limited to: Spotlight, Casting Call Pro, theatre production printed programmes, etc) that you credit me wherever possible/appropriate and when the medium allows.

I'm a big believer in promoting the people that have used my services, so if you have a website, Facebook page, Spotlight account, or any other promotional space that you would like me to link to along with your headshots wherever I display them, please let me know.

Finally, I want to continue improving my headshot technique and style, so if you happen to get any feedback from any appropriate industry parties such as other actors, agents, casting directors etc, good or bad, it would be a great help to me if you could pass that feedback on to me.

Other than that, I hope you enjoy the photos and they help bring more work in for you!

I'll send the others on tomorrow. Have a great weekend!"

This kind of thing is perfectly acceptable for TFP and is enforceable if either they or you break the agreement. Feel free to copy and alter it for your TFP shoots if you wish. :)
 
If you can afford a camera, you can afford a lawyer.

No reason not to do research and pull together some documents in advance, though.

Depends on what camera. You think the 800 or 900 bucks I've invested in equipment over the course of about 3/4 of a year will pay for a lawyer?
 
Hey @NedM , you have my respect for posting your contract and admitting your error.

In theory, there is actually no reason why you shouldn't supply images with your watermark on them, but the nature of a TFP shoot is that you should provide your model with useable images. If they can use your images with your watermark on them, then that is fine - there is no problem, but if they ask you to remove it for display purposes, you should honour that request in the interest of the agreement of providing useable images for the use of their time. You can, by all means, ask that they credit you where possible, but understand that it isn't always possible.

She wants the images to promote herself, not you, and you want the images to promote yourself, not her. That's the trade off. BUT, if you both help promote each other regardless, you will have a new contact in the industry, potential willing future practice guinea pig and probably, a friend as well.

I mostly photograph actors and have done a LOT for free to build my portfolio, but every actor I have photographed is now a friend of mine on Facebook. I join any Facebook pages of plays, films or other shows they are in and I even make a conscious effort to attend their shows if I possibly can (and I do). That way, I can meet them after the show, they'll introduce me to their actor friends as the guy who did their headshots, and bingo! I have ten new potential clients who all shake my hand, know my name and take my business cards.

Your contract did not mention watermarks at all and didn't really mention that the shoot was a TFP arrangement and in that respect was unfair towards the model.

You will have a much more pleasant experience with your models if you are open right from the beginning and tell them if you will be supplying images with a watermark. If they don't want that, either supply them without, or decline the shoot. A TFP is supposed to be a friendly mutually helpful exercise not just to get images but also in networking, which will always be your best marketing tool.

If I were you, I wouldn't panic about it. Everyone will make this kind of mistake somewhere along the line. Treat it as a bad day, send her the images and move on.

I mentioned in another thread somewhere today, that when I do a TFP shoot I don't have a "contract", I use a sort of "Gentlemen's Agreement". Before the day of the shoot, I send the model an email explaining what I expect to happen during the shoot, how long I expect it to last and what they can and cannot do with the images afterwards - I also ask them to specify what format the images should be in to be most useful to them. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I tell what I will and will not do with the images and make sure I stick to that agreement.

You will appear more friendly this way and will build a much better reputation for yourself. If someone wants to commision you for a paid shoot, by all means bring out the contract (make sure you understand it first!), but if it's for free for both of you, give them what they need and they'll give you what you need.

Good luck with it :)

"you have my respect for posting your contract and admitting your error."

Same here. Respect.
 
"The whole business of models paying the photographer always feels off to me. "

So... we are a charity in place to make sure every single person we come into contact with as wonderful photos free of charge? ok ok ok... that is just me being a wise guy.... but the reality is this.... It is not for us to make the call on weather or not this person will succeed as a model. It is our job to take and deliver great photographs.

I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid. You should have charged her, shot her, delivered the product and moved on.

You must not like me then. You basically just told me that my entire attitude towards photography is wrong.
 
"The whole business of models paying the photographer always feels off to me. "

So... we are a charity in place to make sure every single person we come into contact with as wonderful photos free of charge? ok ok ok... that is just me being a wise guy.... but the reality is this.... It is not for us to make the call on weather or not this person will succeed as a model. It is our job to take and deliver great photographs.

I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid. You should have charged her, shot her, delivered the product and moved on.


Models need free photographers as much as photographers need free models. If you have the money to pay for all your models, well done you. Buy yourself a cake.
 
I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid.

I do TFP all the time for creative collaboration or just testing equipment. I'm a professional photographer and I have no problem getting paid. :D
 
"The whole business of models paying the photographer always feels off to me. "

So... we are a charity in place to make sure every single person we come into contact with as wonderful photos free of charge? ok ok ok... that is just me being a wise guy.... but the reality is this.... It is not for us to make the call on weather or not this person will succeed as a model. It is our job to take and deliver great photographs.

I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid. You should have charged her, shot her, delivered the product and moved on.


Models need free photographers as much as photographers need free models. If you have the money to pay for all your models, well done you. Buy yourself a cake.


Why would I need a model? I am not a casting agent or an art director.
 
"The whole business of models paying the photographer always feels off to me. "

So... we are a charity in place to make sure every single person we come into contact with as wonderful photos free of charge? ok ok ok... that is just me being a wise guy.... but the reality is this.... It is not for us to make the call on weather or not this person will succeed as a model. It is our job to take and deliver great photographs.

I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid. You should have charged her, shot her, delivered the product and moved on.


Models need free photographers as much as photographers need free models. If you have the money to pay for all your models, well done you. Buy yourself a cake.


Why would I need a model? I am not a casting agent or an art director.

Here is the thing, if you wanna go out to the park and play "Model, Photographer" then go for it. When I do any type of commercial work, the models are picked, dressed and on set when I show up. Other than that, if they need shots done right according to agency standards... they are welcome to come to the studio and purchase a shoot.
 
So these models that are picked, dressed, and on set, are they paying you? Or are they getting paid to be there, same as you?
 
"The whole business of models paying the photographer always feels off to me. "

So... we are a charity in place to make sure every single person we come into contact with as wonderful photos free of charge? ok ok ok... that is just me being a wise guy.... but the reality is this.... It is not for us to make the call on weather or not this person will succeed as a model. It is our job to take and deliver great photographs.

I am against TFP all together because all of these guys doing free work makes it harder for professionals to get paid. You should have charged her, shot her, delivered the product and moved on.


Models need free photographers as much as photographers need free models. If you have the money to pay for all your models, well done you. Buy yourself a cake.


Why would I need a model? I am not a casting agent or an art director.

Here is the thing, if you wanna go out to the park and play "Model, Photographer" then go for it. When I do any type of commercial work, the models are picked, dressed and on set when I show up. Other than that, if they need shots done right according to agency standards... they are welcome to come to the studio and purchase a shoot.

Reading through this thread, I think I've found the line between pros and amateurs.

If the difference is really what I think it is, never again will I ever consider making a business out of photography when I get better.
 
So how often does a beginner have a studio or access to a set?
Do beginners practice on dolls until they are good enough to charge every model?

Hmmm....photogaphy is tough. :)
 

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